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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I also agree with Chris.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fabio<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> at-review-bounces@icann.org [mailto:at-review-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Disspain<br><b>Sent:</b> 16 November 2010 00:25<br><b>To:</b> at-review@icann.org<br><b>Cc:</b> olof.nordling@icann.org; alice.jansen@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT-Review] Meetings in Cartagena<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'>This is in danger of getting out of hand.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'>If we meet with every SO or AC separately there&#8217;s not a lot of point in having a main session on Monday. The Monday main sessions are intended to be for everyone to attend which is why generally SO and AC meetings don&#8217;t clash with the Monday main session meetings.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'>On the other hand, as Brian has correctly identified, if we start meeting separately with SOs and ACs we have to be available to meet with them all.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'>All of this after the comment period on the report has closed. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'>I can see a special case for meeting one on one with the GAC because, like the Board, they are the subject of specific recommendations re the Board/GAC relationship.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'>I&#8217;m unclear why other SOs and ACs cannot simply attend the Monday session. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'>Chris Disspain </span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#FF8000'>|</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'>Chief Executive Officer</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'>.au Domain Administration Ltd</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7030A0'><o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span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>RT,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I met Adam Peake in Paris at the end of last week.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>As you know, he will chair the NomCom next year.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>If feasible, he would also like to meet us in Cartagena.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Olivier</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=FR><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De&nbsp;:</span></b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:at-review-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">at-review-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:at-review-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">at-review-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>De la part de</b> Brian Cute<br><b>Envoyé&nbsp;:</b> lundi 15 novembre 2010 20:09<br><b>À&nbsp;:</b> <a href="mailto:at-review@icann.org" target="_blank">at-review@icann.org</a><br><b>Cc&nbsp;:</b> 'Olof Nordling'; 'Alice Jansen'<br><b>Objet&nbsp;:</b> [AT-Review] Meetings in Cartagena</span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>RT,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Diane Schroeder has confirmed the ATRT meeting with the ICANN Board on Sunday, December 5, 2010 at 4:00p.m. to 5:30p.m.&nbsp; The meeting with the public is scheduled for Monday from 2:00p.m. to 3:30p.m.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I have been asked by Heather Dryden of the GAC and by the GNSO for face-to-face meetings.&nbsp; I had discussed with Heather and Chuck Gomes that our intention was to meet with the Board and the public only in Cartagena and not meet with all the ACs and SOs as we did in Brussels.&nbsp; However, if the organizations feel it is important to meet, my view is that the ATRT should attempt to accommodate these requests conscious of two facts:&nbsp; 1) if the ATRT meets with one or two ACs/SOs, there may be a negative perception from ACs/SOs that the ATRT does not meet with; and 2) it may be difficult to schedule all members of the RT to attend every scheduled meeting.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I propose the following:&nbsp; I will send an email to the Chairs of each AC/SO indicating that the ATRT intends to have a meeting with the Board and the public in Cartagena.&nbsp; I will note that the ATRT has been asked for a meeting by the GNSO and the GAC and will give each Chair the opportunity to request a meeting if their group wishes to do so.&nbsp; With respect to scheduling meetings and attendance by ATRT members, I recognize we may not have the entire RT at each meeting.&nbsp; I have spoken with Manal and she and I will commit to making scheduled meetings (at least one of us). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Brian<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB><br>_______________________________________________<br>AT-Review mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AT-Review@icann.org">AT-Review@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-review" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-review</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-GB>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 562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