[atrt2] Draft agenda for first ATRT2 face to face meeting

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Sun Mar 10 16:07:13 UTC 2013


I am with you on thinking we need to focus on the larger ICANN Community issues.  Though I do not think we can divorce that from Board and GAC actions completely.  But the focus should be on the complex mix of stakeholder roles and repsonsiblities, not the bilateral relationship that was such a large part of the previous review.

The agenda looks fine to me too.  It wasn't clear to me on which St Staff we would be talking to other than Fadi.  How many Sr. Staff will be sitting in on the meeting?  Will there be a On-Duty Sr. Staff member available  for question answering as needed?


On 10 Mar 2013, at 11:45, Lise Fuhr wrote:

> Hi all,
> I can also vote for the drafted agenda - it is good to have a structured
> basis for our discussions next week. 
> I think it makes sense to look at the recommendations of the first ATRT and
> how they are implemented, but I also hope that we will broaden the scope to
> be focused at the ICANN community in general and not primarily the board -
> GAC discussion.  We will have time to discuss this under the AoC mandate
> discussion, and I am looking forward to having these conversations
> face-to-face.
> I hope that we can arrange the informal dinner Wednesday evening as someone
> suggested. Can we meet in the hotel lobby at 7 pm - or is there another plan
> already?
> Best,
> Lise
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: atrt2-bounces at icann.org [mailto:atrt2-bounces at icann.org] På vegne af
> Brian Cute
> Sendt: 9. marts 2013 13:35
> Til: Carlos Raúl G.; Steve Crocker
> Cc: ATRT2
> Emne: Re: [atrt2] Draft agenda for first ATRT2 face to face meeting
> Looks pretty good Steve and thanks to staff for putting together a proposed
> agenda.  To elaborate on a couple of prior points, the morning session on
> Day 2 will be important to hear the observations and perspectives of senior
> ICANN staff with respect to the Affirmation of Commitment (AoC) review
> processes and the level of assimilation of Accountability and Transparency
> under the AoC across the organization.
> Since ATRT2 members have not put forward specific "asks" of ICANN staff for
> the first face-to-face meeting, and to allow adequate time for preparation
> by ICANN staff, I would think that an overview of prior AoC review team
> processes and a stocktaking of implementation by ICANN of those review
> teams' recommendations would be in order.  Adequate time for Q&A by ATRT2
> members and with senior ICANN staff would also be appropriate.  I mentioned
> that the CEO, COO, General Counsel and Head of Policy attended the ATRT1
> first face-to-face meeting.  It seems to me that this level of
> representation and any other that you or Fadi felt appropriate would be
> useful. This is my view only and I ask for other
> ATRT2 member views on the agenda as well.  In fairness, we should give ICANN
> staff any additional guidance (and sufficient time to prepare) for next
> week's interaction.
> On another point, I also share Avri's view that ICANN staff's inputs cannot
> "set" the mission of ATRT2.  The mission of ATRT2 is set by the Affirmation
> of Commitments and ATRT2 needs to independently agree to the terms of
> reference and methodologies of its work using the AoC as its guide.  The
> legitimacy of ATRT2's work and work product will be judged, in part, by its
> ability to act with autonomy and objectivity in its review.
> Of course, this means we will have to do our own analysis of the prior
> review team processes and implementation of recommendations by ICANN.
> ATRT2's work is clearly different from ATRT1 since ATRT1 was the first
> review under the AoC and we were sailing off into unchartered waters.
> ATRT2's work, to a large degree, will focus on the results of prior reviews
> and will take a measure of ICANN's progress on Accountability and
> Transparency as a result of prior review team work and implementation
> efforts.  As such, hearing from senior ICANN staff and Fadi is a critical
> input to ATRT2s work at the outset of our process.
> Regards,
> Brian 
> On 3/8/13 4:46 PM, "Carlos Raúl G." <crg at isoc-cr.org> wrote:
>> I vote for this candidate! and wish you all a nice weekend while I jump 
>> into my flight to San Jose.
>> Cheers
>> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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>> El 08/03/2013, a las 16:35, Steve Crocker <steve at shinkuro.com> escribió:
>>> Folks,
>>> Here's a candidate agenda for our meeting next week.
>>> Steve
>>> <ATRT 2 - Draft agenda - March2013 - v1.4.pdf> 
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