<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><base href="x-msg://2049/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Larisa, thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>ATRT2 colleagues,</div><div><br></div><div>With respect to the first inaccuracy Larisa lists, the timing and implementation of compensation for directors, I sent two notes dealing with this and I am surprised this inaccuracy survived the edit process. Below are the two notes I sent. (I've only included the relevant text from the second message.)</div><div><br></div><div>I am a bit sensitive about this because this is one of the ATRT1 recommendations that I oversaw personally and made a point to move through the implementation process as expeditiously as possible. As both staff and I have explained before, that process turned out to be more complicated and extended than the ATRT1 might have guessed, so the timing was a bit extended. That said, the description in the draft report is inaccurate in its specifics and, worse in my opinion, suggests there was a lack of commitment and attention to the implementation. That's absolutely incorrect and I will say so publicly if we're not able to correct this now.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Steve</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin: 0px; "><b>From: </b>Steve Crocker <<a href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com">steve@shinkuro.com</a>><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; "><b>Subject: </b><b>ATRT2 question: When were directors paid?</b><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; "><b>Date: </b>October 2, 2013 3:29:21 AM GMT+08:00<br></div><div style="margin: 0px; "><b>To: </b>"ATRT2 (<a href="mailto:atrt2@icann.org">atrt2@icann.org</a>)" <<a href="mailto:atrt2@icann.org">atrt2@icann.org</a>><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; "><b>Cc: </b>Steve Crocker <<a href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com">steve@shinkuro.com</a>>, Xavier Calvez <<a href="mailto:xavier.calvez@icann.org">xavier.calvez@icann.org</a>>, John Jeffrey <<a href="mailto:john.jeffrey@icann.org">john.jeffrey@icann.org</a>>, Karine Perset <<a href="mailto:karine.perset@icann.org">karine.perset@icann.org</a>><br></div><br><div>Folks,<br><br>I probed this point more fully.<br><br>The resolution was passed December 8, 2011. It took a while to complete election forms, i.e. whether a director wished to forgo or accept payment, and also to evaluate the tax implications. Payments started at different times for different directors based on the time it took to complete the administrative paperwork, but payments were calculated from the time of the Board's resolution. Thus, even if the first payment was delayed, it included payment for the full period.<br><br>In two cases, it took a bit longer than it did for the others, but the extra delay was at the request of the specific director and was related to their personal situation.<br><br>In terms of satisfying the ATRT1 recommendation, I believe Dec 8, 2011 is the correct date to use. The delays after that were administrative issues. I can easily understand complaints about the administrative delays, but they are similar in nature to delays related to reimbursement of travel expenses, etc. In the case of payments to directors, the delays surrounding the first payments were a one-time issues and I don't believe they have been or are likely to be a problem with subsequent directors. The system is set up and working.<br><br>Steve<br></div></blockquote><br></div><div><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin: 0px; "><b>From: </b>Steve Crocker <<a href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com">steve@shinkuro.com</a>><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; "><b>Subject: </b><b>Re: [atrt2] Draft Report - version 1 for review</b><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; "><b>Date: </b>October 8, 2013 7:00:51 AM GMT+08:00<br></div><div style="margin: 0px; "><b>To: </b>"Larisa B. Gurnick" <<a href="mailto:larisa.gurnick@icann.org">larisa.gurnick@icann.org</a>>, "ATRT2 (<a href="mailto:atrt2@icann.org">atrt2@icann.org</a>)" <<a href="mailto:atrt2@icann.org">atrt2@icann.org</a>><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; "><b>Cc: </b>Steve Crocker <<a href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com">steve@shinkuro.com</a>>, Karine Perset <<a href="mailto:karine.perset@icann.org">karine.perset@icann.org</a>><br></div><br><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Folks,</div><div><br></div><div>I have now read and scribbled comments on the draft that Larisa sent out. I have not had time to pay attention to the subsequent messages, so I have likely missed a few key sections. Also, I have not had time to read the appendix devoted to the implementation of the SSR-RT recommendations. I will try to do so on the plane to Los Angeles tomorrow evening, but I wanted to make the deadline for comments this evening.</div><div><br></div><div>…</div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Steve</div><div><br></div><div>=========================================================================</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite">ibid, ATRT2 notes that payments were not offered until August 2012, a significant delay from the date of approval to implementation.</blockquote><br></div><div>This is factually incorrect, which we have already documented.</div></div></blockquote></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:28 AM, "Larisa B. Gurnick" <<a href="mailto:larisa.gurnick@icann.org">larisa.gurnick@icann.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Dear ATRT2,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Staff has identified several areas of the ATRT2 Draft Report where we believe there is an opportunity to clear up some inaccuracies. Staff would like to call your attention to the items detailed below. Once you’ve had a chance to review and consider these items, and if you agree that they should be corrected, then a Correction List can be created and published as an Addendum to the Draft Report. Since the Draft Report is scheduled to be published for Public Comment today and to stay on the previously discussed schedule, addressing the items noted below via a Correction List would be the best way to proceed.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Larisa<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Samantha Eisner<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, October 21, 2013 10:13 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Larisa B. Gurnick<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Amy Stathos<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ATRT2 Report - inaccuracies<br><b>Importance:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>High<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Hi Larisa - <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">The following are 4 items – not from the executive summary – that we recommend that the ATRT2 take a second look at prior to publication of the report to help clear up some inaccuracies. Please let us know if you have questions.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><ol start="1" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0in; "><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Page 17: "Until August 2012, ICANN's Board consisted of all-volunteer, non-compensated Directors" - This is inaccurate. After the December 2011 Resolution approving Board compensation, while there was time needed to allow for structuring of payment and Board member election of compensation, all Board members who initially elected compensation were compensated on a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>retroactive</i> basis to the time of the resolution. No matter the start date of the compensation in 2012, all board members that elected compensation had the expectation of compensation – which was met – going back to December 2011. The wording of this statement in the report is inaccurate as it suggests that Board members did not receive compensation for their service for periods prior to August 2012, which is wrong. In addition, the Board Chair was eligible for compensation beginning in 2010, and received payment prior to August 2012.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Page 21: "This question is difficult to explore given the nature of redactions. ATRT2 has put this question to ICANN Staff for feedback as to the proper scope of redaction could be reasonably confirmed and is awaiting Staff's reply" - At the meeting with the ATRT2 in L.A., staff posed the question back to the ATRT2 that we required further information on the community concerns relating to redaction before we could address this issue. We have not received any further communication on this issue from the ATRT2, and as previously expressed, do not have the ability to answer this question as posed, without specific reference to concerns. This statement appears to inaccurately reflect the status of the communication on this issue.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Page 24-25: The GAC has submitted edits to the document and the revised text remains to be reviewed/approved by the Board. The Board then will need to develop Bylaws amendments that would impose a time limit and require a super majority of the Board in order to reject GAC advice. - This does not accurately reflect the work that was done or the status of the implementation. The revisions were not drafted by the GAC, they were jointly drafted through the BGRI Working Group, which includes members of the Board. The BGRI has also requested that Bylaws revisions NOT be drafted/put through at this time to allow for more holistic Bylaws revisions that may be necessitated, so as not to take these issues piecemeal. It is inaccurate to suggest that the Board is failing to take action in this instance when it is expressly following the request of the BGRI to NOT do something. Further, the Board, through the Chair, has indicated that the consultation process as designed – including the higher voting threshold – will be used when/if Board-GAC consultation is necessary. This is implemented in principle, and the statement in the report does not reflect this reality.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Page 43 – Reconsideration review – on 13-3, the Board, through the NGPC, actually<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>accepted</i> reconsideration of the issue, though the ultimate decision was that the action should not be overturned. This is different from the Board denying reconsideration, which is what happened in the other instances cited. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">-- <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Samantha Eisner<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Senior Counsel, ICANN<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Los Angeles, California 90094<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Direct Dial: +1 310 578 8631<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Optima; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><a href="mailto:samantha.eisner@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">samantha.eisner@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>atrt2 mailing list<br><a href="mailto:atrt2@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">atrt2@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/atrt2" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/atrt2</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>