[bc-gnso] Report on Geograhic Indicator Debate at Durban

stephvg at gmail.com stephvg at gmail.com
Thu Aug 1 18:53:48 UTC 2013

The argument that the GAC has helped the BC reach objectives in the past has been clearly made and is understood.

I do not think anyone takes it lightly or underestimates the importance of having GAC support to this group.

However, I do not see why this should prevent the BC from having an internal discussion on a topic that members seem to feel warrants discussion.

Right now I have no idea where we stand as a group, and feel J Scott's proposal has merit because I'm not even sure I fully understand the issue and I would hope that through the discussion, I could gain a better understanding from others seem to have much more expertise on this.

I read J Scott's request to be one for an internal discussion in order to try and ascertain a BC position. I think that would be useful. I do not have any preconceived ideas on the outcome at this stage, as the discussion has not even taken place. Surely once we know where we stand on an issue, then we can decide what to do with it. But not before.

You say you'd like to be sure that we are taking a broadly inclusive input to any discussion. I couldn't agree more, but it's hard to do without first having that discussion.



Le 1 août 2013 à 20:41, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com> a écrit :

> I sent a response that raised questions about the challenges in this position, as several members did also raise concerns about how the BC has benefitted from GAC support on Strawman and SSR.
> I think this is going to be a contentious discussion within the BC, and I'd like to be sure that we are taking a broadly inclusive input to any discussion, including considering the importance of how the GAC has helped the BC's interests on gaining improvements on Strawman improvements. I know that Stephane, you didn't support the improvements that the BC fought for, along with the IPC, but those were broadly supported by the BC, and we frankly would not have gained the improvements, without the GAC listening, and accepting our concerns, and weighing in.
> On SSR, again, there is a shared concern about stability as the new gTLDs are introduced.
> It is important to the BC as users to also take into account our longer term views and concerns.
> Finally, I will say that working with the GAC within ICANN is much preferred to having to work with governments outside of ICANN at WIPO, ITU, and UN General Assembly, where the SME nature of the GAC is not always present in those discussions.
> I do want to be part of the discussions, but I also want to note that all discussions on the role of GAC need to be broad and inclusive and not focused on individual gTLD decisions.
> In fact, the BC membership charter is not about gTLD applications and concerns of applicants or contracted parties. That is extremely important to remember and to maintain the integrity of that uniqueness of our role.
> Marilyn Cade
> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:32:16 -0700
> From: jscottevans at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] Report on Geograhic Indicator Debate at Durban
> To: stephvg at gmail.com; sarah.b.deutsch at verizon.com
> CC: psc at vlaw-dc.com; bc-gnso at icann.org
> Thanks Stephane. I think you're perspective would be refreshing.
> Steve, what do we need to do to get this started?
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> To: Deutsch, Sarah B <sarah.b.deutsch at verizon.com>; 
> Cc: 'jscottevans at yahoo.com' <jscottevans at yahoo.com>; 'psc at vlaw-dc.com' <psc at vlaw-dc.com>; 'bc-gnso at icann.org' <bc-gnso at icann.org>; 
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> +1. Happy to help if I can.
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> Le 1 août 2013 à 19:46, "Deutsch, Sarah B" <sarah.b.deutsch at verizon.com> a écrit :
> I'd be happy to work on this as well and see if we can find a consensus position. 
> Sarah B. Deutsch 
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> From: J. Scott Evans [mailto:jscottevans at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 12:10 PM
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> Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Report on Geograhic Indicator Debate at Durban 
> I am telling you all this is a dangerous precedent. I hereby request that the BC take up this issue and develop a formal opinion in this specific issue and the broader issue of the GAC's role. 
> I am happy to lead this effort.
> J. Scott
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