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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I may be out of sync with ongoing
discussions in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Seoul</st1:place></st1:City>,
but wanted to offer support for proposed language regarding the number of posts
and frequency of posts that helps keep discussions focused, minimizes
irrelevant posts, but also allows for appropriate communication and exchange,
so the proposed text below seems reasonable to me:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>"reiterating of ones point of view excessively that may overburden
members </span></font><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>by posting of more
messages than is proportionate in length with respect to an issue or the
responses from other members thus overburdening others with one particular
point of view"<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I also agree with Scott and others’
logic regarding:<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>“According to the Charter 7.5, members are required to
"remain faithful to approved positions." AND "Members of
the </span></font><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Executive Committee are required to
support such positions" It seems logical to me that Counselors "are
required to support such positions" equates to voting with the consensus
and direction of the BC”<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Again, apologies if I am out of sync
with developments, and hope this is helpful in someway.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ayesha</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Scott M. McCormick<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> mercredi 28 octobre 2009
09:28<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Marilyn Cade<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Liz Williams; Jim Baskin; bc -
GNSO list<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [bc-gnso] Regarding
additional changes to BC Charter</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hello everyone, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I support Jim's suggestion as well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>In response to Marilyn's comments below,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>1.) I move to remove the limit's on daily posts. If we are to be
effective in our coordination, I see a limit on posts as a hinderance. I
realize we have call-ins to accomplish tasks, but as I have seen in the last
couple months (of which I have become a BC member) with a limit of 3/day or
10/month. How does anyone expect to accomplish anything in a timely
manner? I would suggest we move to change the wording to state something
as such:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>"reiterating of ones point of view excessively that may overburden
members </span></font><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>by posting of more
messages than is proportionate in length with respect to an issue or the
responses from other members thus overburdening others with one particular
point of view"</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2.) I was not present at this mornings meeting. According
to the Charter 7.5, members are required to "remain faithful to approved
positions." AND "Members of the </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Executive Committee are required to support such
positions" It seems logical to me that Counselors "are required to
support such positions" equates to voting with the consensus and direction
of the BC. </span></font></span><span class=apple-style-span><font
size=4 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>Did
I miss something? </span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=4 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Scott
M. McCormick</span></font></span><font size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><br>
<span class=apple-style-span>McCormick ICT International</span><br>
<span class=apple-style-span>mobile +1 443.691.2013</span><br>
<span class=apple-style-span><a href="mailto:scott@mccormickict.com">scott@mccormickict.com</a></span><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Oct 28, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Marilyn Cade wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><span style='orphans: 2;
widows: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px;-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'>Actually, I'm on board with
Jim's suggestion. I know that Sarah Deutsch, his colleague had made
several proposals for change, and undoubtedly will want to ensure that they are
all taken into account.</span></font></span><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Once we make changes, I'm
skeptical that we will, in fact, have the time or bandwidth to make further
changes, so we need to get this right. </span></font></span><font size=2
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>On the needed additional changes,
I find it unfortunate that we didn't read on through the rest of the Charter,
and do the final check to ensure that stuff that has been controversial and
objected to by several members. Let me identify two problem areas that have
been raised and I have repeatedly asked to have two changes made and in
writing. </span></font></span><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>1) remove the discussion on limits
of number of posts. </span></font></span><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Explanation: the evidence of our
need to work collaboratively, and in real time, and to keep our remote members
informed, we have all collaborated on line to share information and to keep in
touch. Every member who has been helping to share information, including Mike
R.; Zahid; Marilyn and even Sarah, who isn't here can be 'sanctioned', or even
kicked off the mailing list according to that criteria/limitation of only 3 per
day/etc. </span></font></span><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>I have asked repeatedly to have
this changed. </span></font></span><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Thus, I consider this to be one of
the things that should be changed. It's a simple change. </span></font></span><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>2) the list management section
needs to be cut out as well. Any responsibility for an email list would
belong in the :secretariat service(s) which is addressed earlier. The IPC
certainly took a VERY high level approach without addressing this kind of
detailed intervention into the ability of the members to communicate. </span></font></span><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>After what came out this morning
in Council when one of our councilors said that "according to the current
BC Charter, councilors are not required to vote as their constituency directs",
I have one additional change to the Charter. </span></font></span><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>We need to add in a sentence that</span></font></span><span
class=apple-converted-space><font face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana'> </span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><b><i><font face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>clearly</span></font></i></b></span><span
class=apple-converted-space><font face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana'> </span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana'>states
that the elected BC Councilors are bound by the guidance of the BC
membership. </span></font></span><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>One more thing -- just an FYI for
right now, but an important consideration -- during the NomComm review and
again in the Board Review, there is a growing recognition of the need for
recall mechanisms. In fact, the ALAC is moving ahead with metrics for elected
reps, and even recall.</span></font></span><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Let's give serious consideration
to adding that in, and getting this charter right. </span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>CC:</span></font></span><span class=apple-converted-space><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span></font></span><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:lizawilliams@mac.com">lizawilliams@mac.com</a><br>
To:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:james.f.baskin@verizon.com">james.f.baskin@verizon.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC Charter<br>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:05:51 +0000<br>
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Hi Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>I thought that we agreed (I asked Philip to clarify
that at the end) was that Philip would capture the few changes that were made
during the meeting; finalise version 20; send that to the list with a timetable
of moving towards a vote quite shortly, based on the timing included in the
charter itself.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>I urge us to move to a new structure soon so that we can
stop talking about process and get back to substantive policy work ASAP.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>On 28 Oct 2009, at 04:01, Baskin, James F (Jim) wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><span style='word-spacing:0px'>Our BC
agenda yesterday was very full. We had to cut off discussion on some topics due
to time constrains. It seems to me that we still need to make a few more
changes to the Charter before a final vote.</span></font><font color=black><span
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