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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks Mike. Would your edited version still impose an affirmative
obligation on registries to cross-reference the clearinghouse? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike
Rodenbaugh<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'bc - GNSO list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] FW: [gnso-sti] Common Grounds Paper<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks Chris, how about this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Registry operations for
adding new names [DEL should be] ARE OFTEN a highly-automated function [<span
style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>DELETE, and the failure of a
registry to take affirmative steps to assess whether a domain name violates
trademark laws [DEL should not] MAY NOT ALWAYS in itself constitute bad
faith or systemic infringement.]</span> However, a registry operator who
fails to perform the specific rights protection mechanisms enumerated in its </span></b><b><span
style='font-size:10.5pt'>Registry Operator’s Agreement should be subject to
PDDM claims, as set forth in the IRT Final Report.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mike Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>RODENBAUGH LAW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>548 Market Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>San Francisco, CA 94104<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><a
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738-8087</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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href="http://rodenbaugh.com/">http://rodenbaugh.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christopher
Martin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 05, 2009 1:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'bc - GNSO list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] FW: [gnso-sti] Common Grounds Paper<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t disagree with either Sarah’s or Mike’s comments on
Steve’s proposal. But in terms of getting something through that will
work for all parties down the road, do we want to consider perhaps softening
the language a bit? Perhaps change <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Registry operations for
adding new names [DEL should be] ARE OFTEN a highly-automated function, and the
failure of a registry to take affirmative steps to assess whether a domain name
violates trademark laws [DEL should not] MAY NOT ALWAYS in itself
constitute bad faith or systemic infringement. However, a registry
operator who fails to perform the specific rights protection mechanisms
enumerated in its </span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt'>Registry
Operator’s Agreement should be subject to PDDM claims, as set forth in the IRT
Final Report.</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Understand that may still not be close enough to other positions
on the committee, so just throwing out ideas. USCIB does not have an
official position on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-bc-gnso@icann.org
[mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Rodenbaugh<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'bc - GNSO list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] FW: [gnso-sti] Common Grounds Paper<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>BC members might disagree with most of your first
sentence. Specifically, the BC appears to have reached consensus that
registry operators and/or registrars should do lookups against the
Clearinghouse database, and provide appropriate notices to all domain
registration applicants. ALAC and other constituencies are of the same
view, though some registrars and registries appear to resist. Those
registries and/or registrars that choose to ignore this lookup and notice
capability (for whatever reason) ought not be relieved from liability for that
choice, and might be considered a bad faith contributor to systemic
infringement, if not a direct infringer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I support your second sentence though!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mike Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>RODENBAUGH LAW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>548 Market Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>San Francisco, CA 94104<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://service.ringcentral.com/ringme/callback.asp?mbid=57178438,0,&referer=http://rodenbaugh.com/contact">(415)
738-8087</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://rodenbaugh.com/">http://rodenbaugh.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve
DelBianco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zahid Jamil; 'bc - GNSO list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] FW: [gnso-sti] Common Grounds Paper<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thank-you,
Zahid, for your exhaustive efforts on the rights protection mechanisms.<br>
<br>
As you requested, here’s one comment on the draft BC position on Post
Delegation Dispute Mechanism (PDDM):<br>
<br>
Twice in your draft you express concern about Registry Operators turning a
“blind eye” to infringements. I’m a fan of clever phrases such as “turn a
blind eye”, but in this case I think the rhetoric may go too far. <br>
<br>
One of my registry members reminded me in Seoul that registry operations are
highly automated processes. There is no human “eye” looking at
registration Add records as they come in from registrars. Accordingly, I
suggest replacing the two “blind eye” concerns in the BC comments with this
statement:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Registry operations for
adding new names should be a highly-automated function, and the failure of a
registry to take affirmative steps to assess whether a domain name violates
trademark laws should not in itself constitute bad faith or systemic
infringement. However, a registry operator who fails to perform the
specific rights protection mechanisms enumerated in its </span></b><b><span
style='font-size:10.5pt'>Registry Operator’s Agreement should be subject to
PDDM claims, as set forth in the IRT Final Report. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>
<br>
Again, thanks for working this on our behalf.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- <br>
Steve DelBianco<br>
Executive Director<br>
NetChoice<br>
<a href="http://www.NetChoice.org">http://www.NetChoice.org</a> and <a
href="http://blog.netchoice.org">http://blog.netchoice.org</a> <br>
+1.202.420.7482 <br>
<br>
<br>
On 11/4/09 12:37 PM, "Zahid Jamil" <<a href="zahid@dndrc.com">zahid@dndrc.com</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br>
Would like to ask members that if there are any comments on the draft BC
position on RPMs that was sent out earlier? If I don’t hear anything on
whether there will be comments and that I should hold sending this out to the
GNSO, I will send it out by tomorrow to both the GNSO and the STI.<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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