<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>All,</div><div><br>I am confused on the point made by Mike and supported by Fred.</div><div><br></div><div>Note this from page 32 of the VI report (the bold italics are mine):</div><div><br></div><div>"11 Although the Working Group also initially discussed a single-‐registrant, multiple-‐user (SRMU) subcategory, there was <b><i>substantial opposition</i></b> due to its complexity. Instead, the working group focused on a Single Registrant Single User Exception. Accordingly, only SRSU is identified in the main body of the report."</div><div><br></div><div>I think we would be on firmer ground to carve out a VI waiver based on size rather than ownership. At a certain size, even a captive gTLD could benefit from outside, expert technical support, no?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>John Berard<br></div>
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Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] Proposed BC Comment on Vertical Integration<br>
Working Group Initial Report (to be filed 12-Aug)<br>
From: "Frederick Felman" <<a href="mailto:Frederick.Felman@markmonitor.com">Frederick.Felman@markmonitor.com</a>><br>
Date: Tue, August 10, 2010 10:24 am<br>
To: <<a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>><br>
Cc: "Ron Andruff" <<a href="mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com">randruff@rnapartners.com</a>>, "Steve DelBianco"<br>
<<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>, "bc - GNSO list" <<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>><br>
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<div>I'd agree with Mike in this case. It's the model that many Big brands are considering. <br><br>Sent from +1(415)606-3733</div><div><br>On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:53 AM, "Mike Rodenbaugh" <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"><div> <div class="WordSection1"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I disagree that Single Registrant – Multiple User models have no support in the WG. To the contrary, those models would be freely allowed under the “free trade” proposals that have garnered a lot of support in the WG – in fact receiving more support than either of the other major alternatives in the last straw poll of the WG. More importantly to our Members, such models may very well be desirable for many businesses who wish to own and operate a new gTLD, and so we should support that flexibility as there does not appear to be any additional or substantial harm that would be caused by those business models.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Mike Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">RODENBAUGH LAW<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a target="_blank" href="http://rodenbaugh.com/"><span style="color: blue;">http://rodenbaugh.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div> <div style="border-right: medium none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Andruff<br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 09, 2010 12:34 PM<br> <b>To:</b> 'Steve DelBianco'; 'bc - GNSO list'<br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] Proposed BC Comment on Vertical Integration Working Group Initial Report (to be filed 12-Aug)<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Thanks for the updated comments. I have made a couple of edits/comments, as noted in the attached draft. I specifically commented on the Single Registrant Multiple User (SRMU), which has not gotten any traction, rather only push back from the broader working group. The BC should take note of this and perhaps modify its language in this regard.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">RA<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Ronald N. Andruff</span><span style="color: blue;"><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">President<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color: blue;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">RNA Partners, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">220 </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><ns0:street w:insauthor="Owner" w:insdate="2010-08-09T15:30:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Owner" w:endinsdate="2010-08-09T15:30:00Z"><ns0:address w:insauthor="Owner" w:insdate="2010-08-09T15:30:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Owner" w:endinsdate="2010-08-09T15:30:00Z"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Fifth Avenue</span><span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Owner" datetime="2010-08-09T15:30"></ins></span></ns0:address></ns0:street></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><ns0:place w:insauthor="Owner" w:insdate="2010-08-09T15:30:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Owner" w:endinsdate="2010-08-09T15:30:00Z"><ns0:city w:insauthor="Owner" w:insdate="2010-08-09T15:30:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Owner" w:endinsdate="2010-08-09T15:30:00Z"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">New York</span><span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Owner" datetime="2010-08-09T15:30"></ins></span></ns0:city></ns0:place></span><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">, </span><ns0:state w:insauthor="Owner" w:insdate="2010-08-09T15:30:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Owner" w:endinsdate="2010-08-09T15:30:00Z"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">New York</span><span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Owner" datetime="2010-08-09T15:30"></ins></span></ns0:state><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"> </span><ns0:postalcode w:insauthor="Owner" w:insdate="2010-08-09T15:30:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Owner" w:endinsdate="2010-08-09T15:30:00Z"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">10001</span><span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Owner" datetime="2010-08-09T15:30"></ins></span></ns0:postalcode><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">+ 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color: blue;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;text-align: center;" align="center"> <hr align="center" width="100%" size="2"> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve DelBianco<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 06, 2010 1:24 PM<br> <b>To:</b> 'bc - GNSO list'<br> <b>Subject:</b> [bc-gnso] Proposed BC Comment on Vertical Integration Working Group Initial Report (to be filed 12-Aug)</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">To: BC members<br> From: BC executive committee<br> <br> On Thursday 5-Aug, your executive committee held a call with several BC members who are devoting much of their time to the Vertical Integration (VI) Working Group. ( Ron Andruff, Berry Cobb, Mike Palage, and Jon Nevett ) <br> <br> The discussion revealed that the Working Group is not likely to reach consensus for any single plan. However, there are principles which may emerge with significant support. The initial report of the Working Group is presently posted for public comment, with a due date of 12-Aug. (see <a target="_blank" href="http://icann.org/en/public-comment/#vi-pdp-initial-report"></a><a target="_blank" href="http://icann.org/en/public-comment/#vi-pdp-initial-report">http://icann.org/en/public-comment/#vi-pdp-initial-report</a> )<br> <br> The BC already has an approved position on VI, which was posted in Sep-2009. However, we believe that the BC needs to make key clarifications of our Sep-2009 position in order to make it more relevant the VI Working Group’s initial draft report:</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">1. define what the BC meant by “status quo” in our statement “the BC opposes any change to the status quo for all TLDs intended for sale to third parties”<br> <br> 2. define what the BC meant by “internal use” in our statement “The BC believes that uniquely for domain names intended for internal use, the principle of registry-registrar vertical separation should be waived.”<br> <br> 3. encourage continued work to define eligibility and scope for Single registrant – Single User exception. </span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><br> We drafted a comment along these lines and have posted it here for your review and comment. The executive committee plans to file these comments by 12-August deadline. (comment attached)<br> <br> Again, these are meant to be clarifications of existing position — not a new comment that would be subject to the 14-day review period required by our charter. <br> <br> But as you review these comments, please feel free to raise new issues that go beyond clarifying our Sep-2009 position, since your thoughts will be extremely helpful to the BC members on this working Group and to our GNSO Councilors. For example, please think about how to distinguish ‘registered users’ of a dot-brand owner from ‘registrants’ of an ICANN-accredited registrar. <br> <br> <br> --Steve DelBianco</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div></blockquote>
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