<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Hey,</div><div><br></div><div>I like a good hold-my-breath-until-I-turn-blue rant as much as the next guy, but the history of WhoIs suggests that a better approach might be to get the first study (misuse) done, thereby making the others easier to move.</div><div><br></div><div>From my high school Latin days, I am partial to the lessons learned by reading "Cicero's Orations" which revealed the value of getting others to come to think what you wanted was their idea in the first place. We can do that here.</div><div><br></div><div>Praise fellow Councilors for their persistence, thank the staff for its perseverance, confirm the date for the release of the misuse study and get a commitment that the other three will follow.</div><div><br></div><div>My view, anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>Berard<br></div>
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Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] RWHOIS Studies Reports & DSSA-WG - 24th Feb -<br>
certain other issues on which members may want to provide feedback<br>
From: Steve DelBianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>><br>
Date: Thu, February 17, 2011 8:42 am<br>
To: Zahid Jamil <<a href="mailto:zahid@dndrc.com">zahid@dndrc.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:bc-GNSO@icann.org">bc-GNSO@icann.org</a>"<br>
<<a href="mailto:bc-GNSO@icann.org">bc-GNSO@icann.org</a>><br>
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<div><div><div><div>Agree, Zahid. WHOIS studies are essential for fact-based policy development.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, w/r/t the <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;"><i>Privacy and Proxy Relay and Reveal </i>study:</span></div><blockquote style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 40px; border: medium none; padding: 0px;"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">Staff received no responses to its request-for-proposal. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">Staff is suggesting they can do internal research and a survey to determine possible vendors we can ask.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">I like Staff's plan, but I hope they can do it for less than the $80K they suggest.</span></div></blockquote></div><div><div>-- </div><div>Steve DelBianco</div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div><div>On 2/17/11 11:33 AM, "Zahid Jamil" <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:zahid@dndrc.com">zahid@dndrc.com</a>> wrote:</div></div><div><br></div><div xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:p="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:powerpoint" xmlns:a="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:access" xmlns:dt="uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" xmlns:s="uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:rs="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:rowset" xmlns:z="#RowsetSchema" xmlns:b="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:publisher" xmlns:ss="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadsheet" xmlns:c="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:component:spreadsheet" xmlns:odc="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:odc" xmlns:oa="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:activation" xmlns:html="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:q="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:rtc="http://microsoft.com/officenet/conferencing" xmlns:d="DAV:" xmlns:repl="http://schemas.microsoft.com/repl/" xmlns:mt="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/meetings/" xmlns:x2="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/excel/2003/xml" xmlns:ppda="http://www.passport.com/NameSpace.xsd" xmlns:ois="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/ois/" xmlns:dir="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/directory/" xmlns:ds="http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#" xmlns:dsp="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/dsp" xmlns:udc="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:sub="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/2002/1/alerts/" xmlns:ec="http://www.w3.org/2001/04/xmlenc#" xmlns:sp="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/" xmlns:sps="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:udcs="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/soap" xmlns:udcxf="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/xmlfile" xmlns:udcp2p="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/parttopart" xmlns:wf="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/workflow/" xmlns:dsss="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig-setup" xmlns:dssi="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig" xmlns:mdssi="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/digital-signature" xmlns:mver="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/markup-compatibility/2006" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns:mrels="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/relationships" xmlns:spwp="http://microsoft.com/sharepoint/webpartpages" xmlns:ex12t="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/types" xmlns:ex12m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/messages" xmlns:pptsl="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/SlideLibrary/" xmlns:spsl="http://microsoft.com/webservices/SharePointPortalServer/PublishedLinksService" xmlns:st="" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><style>
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