<html><head><style type="text/css">body {word-wrap: break-word; background-color:#ffffff;}</style></head><body><div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 16px">Yes- the broad definition is the first one- not the second.<br>Thanks Susan for your note.<br><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14px"><i><font color="#333333">Connected by MOTOBLUR™</font></i></span></font></div><br><br>-----Original message-----<br><blockquote style="; border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px"><b>From: </b>Susan Kawaguchi <susank@fb.com><b><br>To: </b>Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org>, "lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com" <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com><b><br>Cc: </b>Janet O'Callaghan <jocallaghan@newscorp.com>, Berry Cobb <berrycobb@infinityportals.com>, Sarah Deutsch <sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com>, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>, "bc-GNSO@icann.org" <bc-GNSO@icann.org><b><br>Sent: </b>Fri, Apr 8, 2011 11:33:23 EDT<b><br>Subject: </b>RE: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team<br><br></div><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Steve, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I agree with Lynn that the definition you reference below is to narrow. We have had lots of discussion within the team and I think our work will be limited by this definition. Personally I would want it as
broad as possible – Consumer = “Internet user”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In discussions when the narrow definition would not include the 2 billion people using the internet but a subset of those that actually touch the whois record in some way.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Susan <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve DelBianco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 08, 2011 8:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Janet O'Callaghan; Berry Cobb; Sarah Deutsch; Elisa Cooper; bc-GNSO@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [bc-gnso] Re: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Lynn — I agree we want a broad definition of "consumer" for purposes of reviewing WHOIS. That's why I recommended we select the <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">thought the scond defintion (below) was the one <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><em><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Any consumer that acts as a Producer of WHOIS data (see above), Maintainer of WHOIS data and provider of WHOIS Service (e.g. Registrars),
</span></em><em><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red">or User of WHOIS data (e.g. – individuals, commercial or non-commercial entities who legitimately query the WHOIS data).</span></em><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">On 4/7/11 8:59 PM, "<a href="mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com">lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com">lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">As an member of the Whois Review Team, I would personally appreciate support from the BC for the broader definition of "consumer" as
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">I maintain that the broader definition is consistent with language in other sections of the AOC that refer to "public interest" and
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Also, I believe members of the BC have first hand experience with the UDRP process and a good understanding of the dependency on Whois
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Subject: For BC review & comment: draft response to Whois Review Team<br>
From: Steve DelBianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>><br>
Date: Thu, April 07, 2011 2:46 pm<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:bc-GNSO@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-GNSO@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:bc-GNSO@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-GNSO@icann.org</a>><br>
Cc: Janet O'Callaghan <<a href="mailto:jocallaghan@newscorp.com" target="_blank">jocallaghan@newscorp.com</a>>, Lynn Goodendorf<br>
<<a href="mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com" target="_blank">lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com</a>>, Berry Cobb<br>
<<a href="mailto:berrycobb@infinityportals.com" target="_blank">berrycobb@infinityportals.com</a>>, Sarah Deutsch<br>
<<a href="http://sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com%3e" target="_blank">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com></a>;, Elisa Cooper<br>
<<a href="http://Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com%3e" target="_blank">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com></a>;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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