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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the information. Clearly AIM would advocate a regular meeting in Europe, on a personal level because it would maximise participation by our members (European branded consumer goods manufacturers) and on a more general outreach basis given the level of industry involved in all things Internet-related in Europe. Although picking up on Mike’s fourth bullet, while we can guarantee the local interest/history/culture, those of us from the north make no promises about the weather.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Marie<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Roberts<br><b>Sent:</b> jeudi 18 octobre 2012 16:41<br><b>To:</b> Steve DelBianco<br><b>Cc:</b> bc - GNSO list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] report from Toronto session: proposal to consolidate meeting locations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I think the BC should file comments on this. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The purpose of the rotating meetings evolves as the organization grows. Need to be sensitive to why people come. In early days, mostly to help stand up ICANN, and to protect perceived organizational interests. Today, more commercial, business flavor. Tomorrow?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Comments on site thus far are good and suggest more staff work is needed. Particularly in assessing overall attractiveness/efficiency of sites. Example matrix:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Visa availability<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Low (lower?) airfares<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Hotel/conf venue and guaranteed discount rates<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- weather/local interest etc<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- burden on staff to support (current arrangements are terrific drain on scarce staff time)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Recently, an American networking organization I have been involved with that draws 800-1000 attendees decided to have one major policy oriented meeting a year near Washington DC (home of policy for us whether we like it or not!), and a second meeting that moves around and also tailors its agenda to current items of major attendee interest/concern. May be some lesson here for ICANN. Do we really need to visit every topic every meeting?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Mike<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Oct 18, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Steve DelBianco wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>ICANN's Public Comment page for the proposed strategy is <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/meetings-proposal-2012-02oct12-en.htm">here</a>. </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The "RATIONALE FOR CONSOLIDATED MEETINGS STRATEGY PROPOSAL" is <a href="http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-clearinghouse/matching-rules-24sep12-en.pdf">here</a>.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Summary of the proposal for ICANN meetings in 2014, 2015, and 2016: </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Asia/Pacific gets 1st meeting of each year </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Europe gets 2nd meeting of each year</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>North America/Africa/Latin America alternate for the 3rd meeting.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Discussion:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kieren McCarthy: over half of ICANN participants come from North America. It's more pragmatic to make North America one of the regular annual locations. </span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Chris Disspain asked, and Nick confirmed that North America has the best availability of suitable venues. But Chris argued against using North America as a regular annual venue because of ICANN's global outreach priority.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Avri Doria: VISA availability is key. Nick: If we pick a facility for re-use, we do better negotiating visas there. Avri: “A good reason not to use North America is that North America is not nice about visas”</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>DelBianco (NetChoice): The title “Consolidated Meetings” implies fewer ICANN meetings. I don’t see how we can get our work done with just 2 meetings instead of 3. Asked if this 3-year plan is actually a transition plan to cut the meetings.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Chris said no. Nick Tomaso said “Consolidated” was a term with respect to the meeting locations. Chris agreed. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Euralo secretariat said that those who were denied a Canadian Visa will be on a list that could deny them future visas. (Is this even remotely true?!)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hungary GAC rep: the South Africa GAC rep said they were not consulted about Durban location selection. Chris disagreed.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Marguerite (Chilean participant): some countries don’t have venues large enough to meet ICANN’s big-meeting requirements. Asked for flexibility. Chris said it doesn’t work so well if participants have 20-minute bus rides to the meetings.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Steve DelBianco<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Executive Director<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>NetChoice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.NetChoice.org">http://www.NetChoice.org</a> and <a href="http://blog.netchoice.org">http://blog.netchoice.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>+1.202.420.7482 <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>