<div>I must agree!</div><div><br></div><div>Berard<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="threadBlockQuote" style="border-left: 2px solid #C2C2C2;padding-left:3px;margin-left: 4px;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #C2C2C2; padding-left: 3px; margin-left: 4px;">--------- Original Message ---------<div>Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] responding to GAC Advice on new gTLD Safeguards<br>From: icann@rodenbaugh.com<br>Date: 5/13/13 11:58 am<br>To: "'Elisa Cooper'" <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>, "'Stéphane_Van_Gelder_Consulting'" <svg@stephanevangelder.com>, "'Steve DelBianco'" <sdelbianco@netchoice.org><br>Cc: bc-gnso@icann.org<br><br><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
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font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"> owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Elisa Cooper<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, May 13, 2013 11:15 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> Stéphane Van Gelder Consulting; Steve DelBianco<br><strong>Cc:</strong> bc-gnso@icann.org<br><strong>Subject:</strong> RE: [bc-gnso] responding to GAC Advice on new gTLD Safeguards</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">+1</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Best,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Elisa</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Elisa Cooper</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Director of Product Marketing</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">MarkMonitor</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Elisa Cooper</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Chair </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">ICANN Business Constituency</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">208 389-5779 PH</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" data-mce-style="border: none; border-top: solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> <a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" data-mce-href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" data-mce-href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a>] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Stéphane Van Gelder Consulting<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, May 13, 2013 6:48 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> Steve DelBianco<br><strong>Cc:</strong> <a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" data-mce-href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [bc-gnso] responding to GAC Advice on new gTLD Safeguards</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Steve.</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I may not be getting the point you are making, but I would feel it inappropriate for the BC as a group to recommend use of an organisation that is so closely linked with one specific TLD (Dot XXX).</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I would prefer a more general comment along the lines of "in general, the BC is in favor of industry self-regulation and recommends that for the specific industries outlined in the GAC's advice on safeguards, an appropriate entity be selected to provide guidance to help each industry sector self regulate."</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Just very rough wording, but you get the general idea of my comments I'm sure ;)</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black" data-mce-style="font-size: 13.5pt; 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(<a href="http://iffor.org/safeguard" data-mce-href="http://iffor.org/safeguard">link</a>)</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">See Kieren McCarthy's article on CircleID (<a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20130510_what_new_gtld_applicants_need_is_a_quick_lightweight_answer_to_gac/" data-mce-href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20130510_what_new_gtld_applicants_need_is_a_quick_lightweight_answer_to_gac/">link</a>) note: Kieren serves on IFFOR's Policy Council.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Since we are currently drafting BC comments on GAC advice, it would be helpful to hear BC member feedback on whether we should recommend IFFOR </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">This may have been what Marilyn and Ron were getting at during the last two conference calls.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">-- </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Steve DelBianco</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Executive Director</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">NetChoice</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"><a href="http://www.NetChoice.org" data-mce-href="http://www.NetChoice.org">http://www.NetChoice.org</a> and <a href="http://blog.netchoice.org" data-mce-href="http://blog.netchoice.org">http://blog.netchoice.org</a> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">+1.202.420.7482 </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div></blockquote>