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<div>On May 23, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Andy Abrams &lt;<a href="mailto:abrams@google.com">abrams@google.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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Thanks to all who have worked on these comments. &nbsp;For disclosure purposes, we no longer have strings that are the subject of GAC advice on exclusive generics, but we still believe in the principle that&nbsp;<span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">such
 registries are not&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">inherently problematic and can improve the gTLD program by allowing for&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">innovative business models. &nbsp;</span>
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<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">My vote would be to go back to Steve's original language, which strikes a balance between the BC's existing non-position on this issue and respecting the GAC's advice by asking the Board to consider the meaning of &quot;public
 interest.&quot; &nbsp;However, if enough members feel strongly about giving some substantive guidance to the Board on this interpretation (and some clearly do), I would not be opposed to adding our varied viewpoints in the document. &nbsp;I appreciate that Sarah, J.Scott
 and Laura have already given their written input, and would be interested in others' opinions on the specific conditions where exclusive generics should be allowed. &nbsp;For our part, we respectfully believe that the GAC envisions at least some subset of exclusive
 generics being permitted, as otherwise, requiring a registry to open up to all competitors in the industry would no longer render the registry &quot;exclusive.&quot; &nbsp;&nbsp;</font></div>
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<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Best,</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:20 PM, <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="13ed317c5d64e5b3_13ed310144a36b9e__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">All of my clients, and my law firm, have business interests much&nbsp; broader than the domain industry.<u></u><u></u></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Who are these people expressing grave concerns?&nbsp; Because I am only hearing competitors to so-called closed generic TLD applicants expressing concerns (including
 indirectly through their ICANN-connected government reps), with no evidence or any real specifics as to the parade of horribles they seem to envision.&nbsp; And certainly no counter-argument to the points I am raising.&nbsp; Do you or anyone else have any substantive
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<a href="mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jscottevans@yahoo.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jscottevans@yahoo.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>; <a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">
svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>; <a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank">
sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs<u></u><u></u></div>
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We appreciate your pov. However, there are many of us in this constituency that have business interests broader than the domain industry. In my discussions with these non-ICANNers, they have voiced grave concerns and want assurances similar to those put forward
 by Sarah and Laura in the latest draft. Do others gave perspective here?<br>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>&gt;;
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<b>To: </b>'Laura Covington' &lt;<a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>&gt;; &lt;<a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>&gt;; 'Deutsch, Sarah B' &lt;<a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a>&gt;;
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<b>Cc: </b>'Elisa Cooper' &lt;<a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>&gt;; 'Steve DelBianco' &lt;<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>&gt;; &lt;<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>&gt;;
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<b>Subject: </b>RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs
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<b>Sent: </b>Thu, May 23, 2013 7:21:46 PM <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">We went through exercise of trying to define categories like this, in 2006.&nbsp; Then in the Vertical Integration WG.&nbsp; Then again recently in the IPC.&nbsp; It can’t
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Mike Rodenbaugh</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Laura Covington [<a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>; 'Deutsch, Sarah B'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Elisa Cooper'; 'Steve DelBianco'; <a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">
bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hey, Mike,&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I'm totally open to considering other definitions/terminology for &quot;closed generics&quot; if you have ideas to propose. &nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">As to the separate issue of responding to the GAC's advice, participants on the call the other day seemed interested in including – or at least considering - language on closed
 generics rather than being silent. &nbsp;It seems clear – and understandable - what your point of view is. &nbsp;Anybody else?&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">icann@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot; &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">icann@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;<br>
<b>Organization: </b>Rodenbaugh Law<br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>&quot;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mike@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot; &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mike@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:13 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;Yahoo! Inc.&quot; &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;, &quot;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;
 &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;, &quot;'Deutsch, Sarah B'&quot; &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>'Elisa Cooper' &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;, 'Steve DelBianco' &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;,
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 land rush).&nbsp; My examples are all registered at the USPTO.&nbsp; Any of those registrations could be purchased or even be previously registered by any so-called ‘closed generic’ TLD applicant.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Why is it legitimate for Apple to operate .apple to the exclusion of everyone else in the world that may have a legitimate use for a .apple domain name?&nbsp; (Maybe
 better examples are other new TLD applicants Abbott, Active, AFamilyCompany, Amazon, AmericanFamily…&nbsp; and the list goes on past Apple….) &nbsp;Yet it would not be legitimate for
<a href="http://Weather.com">Weather.com</a> to operate .weather that way?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Rodenbaugh; </span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">; Deutsch, Sarah B<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Elisa Cooper; Steve DelBianco; </span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Sticking with the definition piece first, doesn't second bullet cover your question? &nbsp;Pre-existing trademark?&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Mike Rodenbaugh &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">icann@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;<br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Mike Rodenbaugh &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">icann@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:42 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;Yahoo! Inc.&quot; &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;, &quot;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;
 &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;, &quot;Deutsch, Sarah B&quot; &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>Elisa Cooper &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;, Steve DelBianco &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;,
 &quot;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot; &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Hi Laura,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Then what about all the trademarks that exist for 'generic words'. &nbsp;Not just Apple, but also Sex, Drugs and even Rock 'n Roll (all registered at the USPTO)?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Beyond that, what about the broader notion that closed generic business models are more in the public interest than open copycat business models? &nbsp;The BC is on record with the position that restricted registries
 are preferred over open registries, because abuse and consumer harm are far less likely.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Best,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Mike</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Laura Covington &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;<br>
<b>To:</b> &quot;</span><a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot; &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;;
 &quot;Deutsch, Sarah B&quot; &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;
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<b>Cc:</b> Elisa Cooper &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;; Steve DelBianco &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;;
 &quot;</span><a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot; &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:23 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>I don’t know of any official definition of a closed generic TLD, but perhaps a starting place would be to say that it is a TLD that:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Consists of a generic term/phrase which&nbsp;<u></u><u></u>
</li><li class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Is not intended to represent a pre-existing trademark, and<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">The registry operator does not intend to sell/grant/give second level domains to the (general?) public&nbsp;<u></u><u></u>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><a>lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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 &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:49 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;Deutsch, Sarah B&quot; &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>Elisa Cooper &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;, Steve DelBianco &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;,
 &quot;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot; &lt;</span><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>Thanks Sarah, J. Scott and Laura for this work.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>Failing that, what is to stop the criteria suggested in this text being imposed on, say, a brand that has a term resembling a generic term as its brand name and that would understandably like to operate it
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>Thanks,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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To follow up on our BC call this morning, &nbsp;we discussed why the existing draft asking ICANN to develop a non-specific public policy exemption in the Registry Code of Conduct for closed generics was not a good idea.&nbsp; Steve had encouraged me, J. Scott Evans and
 Laura Covington from Yahoo to put pen to paper and propose specific ideas (building on the Australia’s earlier GAC recommendations on closed generics) rather than for the BC to remain silent on this issue.&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:navy">Sarah B. Deutsch<span>&nbsp;</span><br>
Vice President &amp; Deputy General Counsel<span>&nbsp;</span><br>
Verizon Communications<span>&nbsp;</span><br>
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 Behalf Of<span>&nbsp;</span></b>Elisa Cooper<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span>&nbsp;</span>Monday, May 20, 2013 3:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span>&nbsp;</span>Steve DelBianco<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span>&nbsp;</span></span><a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:purple">bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span>&nbsp;</span>[bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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 in this draft may be at odds with our earlier position:</span><a href="http://www.bizconst.org/Positions-Statements/BC%20Comment%20on%20Closed%20Generic%20TLDs.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:purple">http://www.bizconst.org/Positions-Statements/BC%20Comment%20on%20Closed%20Generic%20TLDs.pdf</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b><span>&nbsp;</span>Monday, May 20, 2013 12:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span>&nbsp;</span>Steve DelBianco;<span>&nbsp;</span></span><a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:purple">bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span>&nbsp;</span>[bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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Thanks for your work on this draft. My comments are attached.&nbsp; &nbsp;One big issue I would flag for members is the paragraph dealing with closed generics.&nbsp;&nbsp; Various BC members have grave concerns about certain closed generics and formal objections have been filed.&nbsp;
 The focus on applying for an exemption in the Final Guidebook does not fix these fundamental concerns for the reasons outlined in the attached.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b><span>&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span>&nbsp;</span></span><a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:purple">bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span>&nbsp;</span>[bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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