<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top">I can certainly see how your clients might feel that way. I see no harm in getting assurance in place. The good guys can prosper and the bad guys can be weeded out.<br/><br/>J. Scott<br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone</td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_">
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<td valign="top"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow" name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Thanks J. Scott. Just curious whether you also asked for their reaction to the fact that search.com, blog.com, etc. have been exclusively owned for many years, and whether they said anything specific about the harm they are concerned about.</span></a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Most new technology advances and marketing ideas have surprisingly negative reactions from some people; especially from those who didn’t come up with the idea or for whatever reason are not in position to specifically benefit from it.</span></p><p
class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Mike Rodenbaugh</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>RODENBAUGH LAW</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://rodenbaugh.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#0563C1;'>http://rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'> jscottevans@yahoo.com [mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> icann@rodenbaugh.com; icann@rodenbaugh.com; lhc@yahoo-inc.com; svg@stephanevangelder.com; sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com<br><b>Cc:</b> Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com; sdelbianco@netchoice.org; bc-gnso@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="top" style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;'><p class="MsoNormal">Mike:<br><br>My new CMO, some marketers I know through my husband and some INTA members. I was bit surprised by their negative reactions. That said, most people could live with them with the
appropriate safeguards in place. I think the language proposed by Sarah and Laura strikes the correct balance here.<br><br><br>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone</p></td></tr></table><div id="_origMsg_"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'> </span></p><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style='text-align:center;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a> <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>>; <br><b>To: </b><<a
rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">jscottevans@yahoo.com</a>>; <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>>; <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>>; <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>>; <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a>>; <br><b>Cc: </b><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>>; <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank"
href="javascript:return">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>; <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>>; <br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs <br><b>Sent: </b>Thu, May 23, 2013 8:20:35 PM </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'> </span></p><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="top" style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;'><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>All of my clients, and my law firm, have business interests much broader than the domain industry.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><p
class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Who are these people expressing grave concerns? Because I am only hearing competitors to so-called closed generic TLD applicants expressing concerns (including indirectly through their ICANN-connected government reps), with no evidence or any real specifics as to the parade of horribles they seem to envision. And certainly no counter-argument to the points I am raising. Do you or anyone else have any substantive response to any of those points?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Mike Rodenbaugh</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>RODENBAUGH LAW</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://rodenbaugh.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#0563C1;'>http://rodenbaugh.com</span></a></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">jscottevans@yahoo.com</a> [<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com" target="_blank"
href="javascript:return">mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>; <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org"
target="_blank" href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''> </p><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="top" style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;'><p class="MsoNormal" style=''>Mike:<br><br>We appreciate your pov. However, there are many of us in this constituency that have business interests broader than the domain industry. In my discussions with these non-ICANNers, they have voiced grave concerns and want assurances similar to those put forward by Sarah and Laura in the latest draft. Do others gave perspective here?<br><br><br>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone</p></td></tr></table><div id="_origMsg_"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'> </span></p><div><div><div class="MsoNormal"
align="center" style='text-align:center;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'><a rel="nofollow">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a> <<a rel="nofollow">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>>; <br><b>To: </b>'Laura Covington' <<a rel="nofollow">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>>; <<a rel="nofollow">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>>; 'Deutsch, Sarah B' <<a rel="nofollow">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a>>; <br><b>Cc: </b>'Elisa Cooper' <<a rel="nofollow">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>>; 'Steve DelBianco' <<a rel="nofollow">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>; <<a rel="nofollow">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>>; <br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC
comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs <br><b>Sent: </b>Thu, May 23, 2013 7:21:46 PM </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'> </span></p><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="top" style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;'><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>We went through exercise of trying to define categories like this, in 2006. Then in the Vertical Integration WG. Then again recently in the IPC. It can’t be done, as far as I know.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>The GAC didn’t bother to provide
a definition either. Making any response problematic as we don’t really know what we are responding to.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Mike Rodenbaugh</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>RODENBAUGH LAW</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://rodenbaugh.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#0563C1;'>http://rodenbaugh.com</span></a></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;'><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'> Laura Covington [<a rel="nofollow">mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>; 'Deutsch, Sarah B'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Elisa Cooper'; 'Steve DelBianco'; <a rel="nofollow">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''> </p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Hey, Mike, </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>I'm totally open to considering other definitions/terminology for "closed generics" if you have ideas to propose. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>As to the separate issue of responding to the GAC's advice, participants on the call the other day seemed interested in including – or at least considering - language on closed generics rather than being silent. It seems clear – and understandable - what your point of view is. Anybody
else? </span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Laura</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Laura Covington</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>VP, Intellectual Property Policy</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Yahoo! Inc.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>408.349.5187</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;'><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>"</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a><span style='color:black;'>" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a><span style='color:black;'>><br><b>Organization: </b>Rodenbaugh Law<br><b>Reply-To: </b>"</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a><span style='color:black;'>" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a><span style='color:black;'>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:13 AM<br><b>To: </b>"Yahoo! Inc." <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank"
href="javascript:return">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a><span style='color:black;'>>, "</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a><span style='color:black;'>" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a><span style='color:black;'>>, "'Deutsch, Sarah B'" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a><span style='color:black;'>><br><b>Cc: </b>'Elisa Cooper' <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a><span style='color:black;'>>, 'Steve DelBianco' <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org"
target="_blank" href="javascript:return">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a><span style='color:black;'>>, "</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><span style='color:black;'>" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><span style='color:black;'>><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>It seems that every dictionary word is a ‘pre-existing trademark’ at least insofar as it is registered as such somewhere (e.g. Benelux, in
advance of the EU land rush). My examples are all registered at the USPTO. Any of those registrations could be purchased or even be previously registered by any so-called ‘closed generic’ TLD applicant.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Why is it legitimate for Apple to operate .apple to the exclusion of everyone else in the world that may have a legitimate use for a .apple domain name? (Maybe better examples are other new TLD applicants Abbott, Active, AFamilyCompany, Amazon, AmericanFamily… and the list goes on past Apple….) Yet it would not be legitimate for Weather.com to operate .weather that way?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Mike Rodenbaugh</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>RODENBAUGH LAW</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://rodenbaugh.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#0563C1;'>http://rodenbaugh.com</span></a></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;'><p
class="MsoNormal" style=''><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'> Laura Covington [</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a><span style='color:black;'>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mike Rodenbaugh; </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a><span style='color:black;'>; Deutsch, Sarah B<br><b>Cc:</b> Elisa Cooper; Steve DelBianco; </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><span style='color:black;'><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC
comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='color:black;'> </span></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Sticking with the definition piece first, doesn't second bullet cover your question? Pre-existing trademark? </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Laura
Covington</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>VP, Intellectual Property Policy</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Yahoo! Inc.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>408.349.5187</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;'><p class="MsoNormal"
style=''><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Mike Rodenbaugh <</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a><span style='color:black;'>><br><b>Reply-To: </b>Mike Rodenbaugh <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a><span style='color:black;'>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:42 AM<br><b>To: </b>"Yahoo! Inc." <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a><span style='color:black;'>>, "</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com"
target="_blank" href="javascript:return">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a><span style='color:black;'>" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a><span style='color:black;'>>, "Deutsch, Sarah B" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a><span style='color:black;'>><br><b>Cc: </b>Elisa Cooper <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a><span style='color:black;'>>, Steve DelBianco <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a><span style='color:black;'>>, "</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"
href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><span style='color:black;'>" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><span style='color:black;'>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black;'>Hi Laura,</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black;'>Then what about all the trademarks that exist for 'generic words'. Not just Apple, but also Sex, Drugs and even Rock 'n Roll
(all registered at the USPTO)?</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black;'>Beyond that, what about the broader notion that closed generic business models are more in the public interest than open copycat business models? The BC is on record with the position that restricted registries are preferred over open registries, because abuse and consumer harm are far less likely.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black;'>Best,</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style=''><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black;'>Mike</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black;'> </span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;'><div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style='text-align:center;background:white;'><span style='color:black;'><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'> Laura Covington <</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a><span style='color:black;'>><br><b>To:</b> "</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank"
href="javascript:return">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a><span style='color:black;'>" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a><span style='color:black;'>>; "Deutsch, Sarah B" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a><span style='color:black;'>> <br><b>Cc:</b> Elisa Cooper <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a><span style='color:black;'>>; Steve DelBianco <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a><span style='color:black;'>>; "</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"
href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><span style='color:black;'>" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><span style='color:black;'>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:23 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'> </span></p><div id="yiv2128043238"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'>I don’t know of any official definition of a closed generic TLD, but perhaps a starting place would be to say that it is a TLD that:</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'> </span></p></div><ul type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal"
style='color:black;background:white;'>Consists of a generic term/phrase which </li><li class="MsoNormal" style='color:black;background:white;'>Is not intended to represent a pre-existing trademark, and</li><li class="MsoNormal" style='color:black;background:white;'>The registry operator does not intend to sell/grant/give second level domains to the (general?) public </li></ul><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'>Laura Covington</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'>VP, Intellectual Property Policy</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'>Yahoo! Inc.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank"
href="javascript:return">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'>408.349.5187</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'> </span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;'><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>"</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a><span style='color:black;'>" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank"
href="javascript:return">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a><span style='color:black;'>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:49 AM<br><b>To: </b>"Deutsch, Sarah B" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a><span style='color:black;'>><br><b>Cc: </b>Elisa Cooper <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a><span style='color:black;'>>, Steve DelBianco <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a><span style='color:black;'>>, "</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><span style='color:black;'>" <</span><a rel="nofollow"
ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><span style='color:black;'>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'>Thanks Sarah, J. Scott and Laura for this work. </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'>I am wondering if there is a clear definition of what constitutes a closed generic TLD somewhere?</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span
style='color:black;'>Failing that, what is to stop the criteria suggested in this text being imposed on, say, a brand that has a term resembling a generic term as its brand name and that would understandably like to operate it for its own exclusive use?</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'>Thanks,</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Stéphane Van Gelder<br>Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur<br>STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING<br><br>T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>T
(FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Skype: SVANGELDER<br></span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.stephanevangelder.com/"><span style='font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'>www.StephaneVanGelder.com</span></a><span style='font-family:"Helvetica", "sans-serif";color:black;'><br></span><span style='font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>----------------<br>Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: </span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant"><span style='font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'>www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant</span></a></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;'>LinkedIn: </span><a rel="nofollow" name="webProfileURL"></a><a rel="nofollow"
target="_blank" href="http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/" title="View public profile"><span style='font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'>fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/</span></a></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'> </span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'>Le 22 mai 2013 à 22:58, "Deutsch, Sarah B" <</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a><span style='color:black;'>> a écrit :</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;'> </p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;'><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>All,</span></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'><br>To follow up on our BC call this morning, we discussed why the existing draft asking ICANN to develop a non-specific public policy exemption in the Registry Code of Conduct for closed generics was not a good idea. Steve had encouraged me, J. Scott Evans and Laura Covington from Yahoo to put pen to paper and propose specific ideas (building on the Australia’s earlier GAC recommendations on closed generics) rather than for the BC to remain silent on this issue. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Our proposed language is attached for
Members’ consideration.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'><br>Sarah</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:navy;'>Sarah B. Deutsch<span
class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Vice President & Deputy General Counsel<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Verizon Communications<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Phone: 703-351-3044<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Fax: 703-351-3670</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;'><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'>From:</span></b><span
class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:purple;'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'>[</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a><span style='color:black;'>]<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Elisa Cooper<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, May 20, 2013 3:34 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span>Steve DelBianco<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style='color:purple;'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><span style='color:black;'><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span>[bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Steve,</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Thank you so much for all of your work on this.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Please find attached my edits to Sarah’s draft.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"
style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>As previously stated, I will recuse myself from comments related to Closed Generics. That said, I am concerned that the proposed comments in this draft may be at odds with our earlier position:</span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.bizconst.org/Positions-Statements/BC%20Comment%20on%20Closed%20Generic%20TLDs.pdf"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:purple;'>http://www.bizconst.org/Positions-Statements/BC%20Comment%20on%20Closed%20Generic%20TLDs.pdf</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Thank you again.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Best,</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Elisa</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Elisa Cooper</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Director of Product Marketing</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>MarkMonitor</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Elisa Cooper</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Chair</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>ICANN Business Constituency</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"
style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>208 389-5779 PH</span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;'><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'>From:</span></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:purple;'><a rel="nofollow"
ymailto="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'>[</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:purple;'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'>]<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Deutsch, Sarah B<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, May 20, 2013 12:29 PM<br><b>To:</b><span
class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span>Steve DelBianco;<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:purple;'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span>[bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Steve, All,</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'><br>Thanks for your work on this draft. My comments are attached. One big issue I would flag for members is the paragraph dealing with closed generics. Various BC members have grave concerns about certain closed generics and formal objections have been filed. The focus on applying for an exemption in the Final Guidebook does not fix these fundamental concerns for the reasons outlined in the attached.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>I’d suggest that the BC either (a) refrain from taking a position on the closed generic issue altogether or (b) support the GAC’s concerns
about closed generics and the need to show that an award of an exclusive right in a generic term is in the larger public interest. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Sarah</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;'><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'>From:</span></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:purple;'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'>[</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:purple;'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'>]<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Steve DelBianco<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:40 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:purple;'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";color:black;'><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span>[bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",
"sans-serif";color:black;'>ICANN’s new gTLD Board Committee has requested public comment on how it should address GAC advice to establish safeguards for categories of new gTLDs. (</span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/gac-safeguard-advice-23apr13-en.htm"><span style='font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:purple;'>link</span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>)</span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>The BC has have held 3 conference calls on this topic (see minutes and transcripts on the BC<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home"><span style='font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:purple;'>Wiki</span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>). Several BC members provided input, including text from Ron Andruff, Marilyn Cade, and Andrew Mack. </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Comment period closes 4-Jun. That allows our regular 14-day review and approval period. So, please REPLY ALL with your suggested edits and comments regarding this draft, before 29-May-2013.</span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",
"sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Steve DelBianco</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Vice chair for policy coordination</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'>Business Constituency</span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span style='font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:white;'><span
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