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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I don’t know how you define ‘closed generic’. All of my clients intending to operate single registrant TLDs have relevant trademark registrations. I also don’t see how your question is relevant to this discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mike Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>RODENBAUGH LAW<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://rodenbaugh.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0563C1'>http://rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Deutsch, Sarah B<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> mike@rodenbaugh.com; 'Laura Covington'; svg@stephanevangelder.com<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Elisa Cooper'; 'Steve DelBianco'; bc-gnso@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Can you tell us which clients are you representing for which closed generics?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Mike Rodenbaugh [<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> Deutsch, Sarah B; 'Laura Covington'; <a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Elisa Cooper'; 'Steve DelBianco'; <a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I represent various TLD applicants for all types of models -- brand, niche, restricted, single-registrant, open. I advocate on behalf of the principles involved, namely that closed TLD business models are inherently no different (or at least no more likely harmful) than sole ownership of second-level domain names. Moreover such models were always discussed, accepted and even encouraged throughout the 6-year PDP… right up until it was revealed that Google and Amazon had applied for 175 of them combined. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You do not cite any evidence of any potential harm. Nor did the GAC, which merely tracked the “public interest” language already in the AGB Spec 9. Nor did Australia, which is but one government which cited no evidence or anything remotely “specific” as to potential harm. Nor have I seen any evidence from anyone who has objected to any so-called closed generic application. They complain because their competitor would control the string, but this is much like their competitor (or they themselves, or someone else) controls the relevant .com, .net, .org and important ccTLD domains in their industry today.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As for the five factors you cite, I have questions and comments:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:20.25pt;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>1)</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>address antitrust and other anti-competition concerns; -- Are you aware of any evidence of likely harm, or of harm caused by second-level generic domain registrations? How could an applicant address these concerns to your satisfaction? How is this within ICANN’s remit?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:20.25pt'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:20.25pt;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>2)</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span><span style='color:black'>minimize the risk of potential consumer confusion for users, who may not realize that the information, products or services promoted is provided via a closed or restricted registry;<b> -- </b>Why is this a concern? Why would any consumers care about this? Has there been such confusion or concern in .museum, .aero, .travel, .jobs? Or with respect to generic second level names? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:20.25pt;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>3)</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span><span style='color:black'>appropriately and fairly define the class of potential second level domain name registrants; -- Single registrant models mean there is one registrant.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:20.25pt;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>4)</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span><span style='color:black'>prevent onerous and potentially anticompetitive registration fees; -- Inapplicable in single registrant models.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:20.25pt;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>5)</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span><span style='color:black'>explore any necessary security and operational safeguards to minimize fraud, abuse and consumer complaints. – These concerns are already explored in response to Q28 and 29 and in other areas of the TLD application, with requirements contained in the Registry Agreement. Also it seems inherently unlikely to have such problems in a single registrant model since the registrant is legally responsible for all activity within the TLD.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mike Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>RODENBAUGH LAW<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://rodenbaugh.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0563C1'>http://rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Deutsch, Sarah B [<a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com">mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>; 'Laura Covington'; <a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Elisa Cooper'; 'Steve DelBianco'; <a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>In the interests of transparency and to avoid any actual or perceived conflicts of interest, I’d ask everyone who has or will comment on this string to disclose whether you are applying for or representing applicants for closed generics and which closed generics you are advocating on behalf of. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>To address the assertion that closed generics are somehow necessarily better than open gTLDs, my position is that both have their risks and problems. We certainly don’t like many of the open applications, which we believe will become havens for cybersquatting, fraud and abuse. But, as evidenced by the GAC language, Australia’s specific red flags, and the many industry objections filed at ICANN and at the ICC, closed generics can carry their own risk of potential abuses. We wrote up what we think it means for responsible closed spaces to operate in the “public interest” and this included the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:20.25pt;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>1)</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>address antitrust and other anti-competition concerns; </span><span style='color:black'>(2) minimize the risk of potential consumer confusion for users, who may not realize that the information, products or services promoted is provided via a closed or restricted registry;<b> </b>(3) appropriately and fairly define the class of potential second level domain name registrants; (4) prevent onerous and potentially anticompetitive registration fees; and (5) explore any necessary security and operational safeguards to minimize fraud, abuse and consumer complaints. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:20.25pt'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Sarah<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Mike Rodenbaugh [</span><a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>] <b>On Behalf Of </b></span><a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>icann@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Laura Covington'; </span><a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>; Deutsch, Sarah B<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Elisa Cooper'; 'Steve DelBianco'; </span><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It seems that every dictionary word is a ‘pre-existing trademark’ at least insofar as it is registered as such somewhere (e.g. Benelux, in advance of the EU land rush). My examples are all registered at the USPTO. Any of those registrations could be purchased or even be previously registered by any so-called ‘closed generic’ TLD applicant.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Why is it legitimate for Apple to operate .apple to the exclusion of everyone else in the world that may have a legitimate use for a .apple domain name? (Maybe better examples are other new TLD applicants Abbott, Active, AFamilyCompany, Amazon, AmericanFamily… and the list goes on past Apple….) Yet it would not be legitimate for Weather.com to operate .weather that way?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mike Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>RODENBAUGH LAW<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://rodenbaugh.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0563C1'>http://rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Laura Covington [</span><a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mike Rodenbaugh; </span><a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>; Deutsch, Sarah B<br><b>Cc:</b> Elisa Cooper; Steve DelBianco; </span><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Sticking with the definition piece first, doesn't second bullet cover your question? Pre-existing trademark? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Laura Covington<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>VP, Intellectual Property Policy<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Yahoo! Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com"><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>lhc@yahoo-inc.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>408.349.5187<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Mike Rodenbaugh <</span><a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>icann@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>><br><b>Reply-To: </b>Mike Rodenbaugh <</span><a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>icann@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:42 AM<br><b>To: </b>"Yahoo! Inc." <</span><a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>lhc@yahoo-inc.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>>, "</span><a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>" <</span><a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>>, "Deutsch, Sarah B" <</span><a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>><br><b>Cc: </b>Elisa Cooper <</span><a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>>, Steve DelBianco <</span><a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>sdelbianco@netchoice.org</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>>, "</span><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>" <</span><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Hi Laura,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Then what about all the trademarks that exist for 'generic words'. Not just Apple, but also Sex, Drugs and even Rock 'n Roll (all registered at the USPTO)?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Beyond that, what about the broader notion that closed generic business models are more in the public interest than open copycat business models? The BC is on record with the position that restricted registries are preferred over open registries, because abuse and consumer harm are far less likely.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Laura Covington <</span><a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>lhc@yahoo-inc.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>><br><b>To:</b> "</span><a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>" <</span><a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>>; "Deutsch, Sarah B" <</span><a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>> <br><b>Cc:</b> Elisa Cooper <</span><a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>>; Steve DelBianco <</span><a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>sdelbianco@netchoice.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>>; "</span><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>" <</span><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:23 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv2128043238><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>I don’t know of any official definition of a closed generic TLD, but perhaps a starting place would be to say that it is a TLD that:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3;background:white'>Consists of a generic term/phrase which <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3;background:white'>Is not intended to represent a pre-existing trademark, and<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3;background:white'>The registry operator does not intend to sell/grant/give second level domains to the (general?) public <o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Laura Covington<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>VP, Intellectual Property Policy<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Yahoo! Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>408.349.5187<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>"</span><a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>" <</span><a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:49 AM<br><b>To: </b>"Deutsch, Sarah B" <</span><a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>><br><b>Cc: </b>Elisa Cooper <</span><a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>>, Steve DelBianco <</span><a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>sdelbianco@netchoice.org</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>>, "</span><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>" <</span><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Thanks Sarah, J. Scott and Laura for this work. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>I am wondering if there is a clear definition of what constitutes a closed generic TLD somewhere?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Failing that, what is to stop the criteria suggested in this text being imposed on, say, a brand that has a term resembling a generic term as its brand name and that would understandably like to operate it for its own exclusive use?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Stéphane Van Gelder<br>Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur<br>STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING<br><br>T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Skype: SVANGELDER<br></span><a href="http://www.stephanevangelder.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.StephaneVanGelder.com</span></a><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>----------------<br>Follow us on Twitter: @stephvg and "like" us on Facebook: </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.facebook.com/DomainConsultant</span></a><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>LinkedIn: </span><a name=webProfileURL></a><a href="http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/" target="_blank" title="View public profile"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/</span></a><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Le 22 mai 2013 à 22:58, "Deutsch, Sarah B" <</span><a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a><span style='color:black'>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>To follow up on our BC call this morning, we discussed why the existing draft asking ICANN to develop a non-specific public policy exemption in the Registry Code of Conduct for closed generics was not a good idea. Steve had encouraged me, J. Scott Evans and Laura Covington from Yahoo to put pen to paper and propose specific ideas (building on the Australia’s earlier GAC recommendations on closed generics) rather than for the BC to remain silent on this issue. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Our proposed language is attached for Members’ consideration.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Sarah</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Sarah B. Deutsch<span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span><br>Vice President & Deputy General Counsel<span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span><br>Verizon Communications<span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span><br>Phone: 703-351-3044<span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span><br>Fax: 703-351-3670</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>[</span><a href="mailto:owner-" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>mailto:owner-</span></a><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>]<span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span></b>Elisa Cooper<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, May 20, 2013 3:34 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span>Steve DelBianco<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span>[bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Steve,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you so much for all of your work on this.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Please find attached my edits to Sarah’s draft.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As previously stated, I will recuse myself from comments related to Closed Generics. That said, I am concerned that the proposed comments in this draft may be at odds with our earlier position:</span><a href="http://www.bizconst.org/Positions-Statements/BC%20Comment%20on%20Closed%20Generic%20TLDs.pdf" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:purple'>http://www.bizconst.org/Positions-Statements/BC%20Comment%20on%20Closed%20Generic%20TLDs.pdf</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you again.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Elisa</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Elisa Cooper</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Director of Product Marketing</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>MarkMonitor</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Elisa Cooper</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Chair</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>ICANN Business Constituency</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>208 389-5779 PH</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>[</span><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>]<span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span></b>Deutsch, Sarah B<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, May 20, 2013 12:29 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span>Steve DelBianco;<span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span>[bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Steve, All,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Thanks for your work on this draft. My comments are attached. One big issue I would flag for members is the paragraph dealing with closed generics. Various BC members have grave concerns about certain closed generics and formal objections have been filed. The focus on applying for an exemption in the Final Guidebook does not fix these fundamental concerns for the reasons outlined in the attached.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’d suggest that the BC either (a) refrain from taking a position on the closed generic issue altogether or (b) support the GAC’s concerns about closed generics and the need to show that an award of an exclusive right in a generic term is in the larger public interest. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sarah</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>[</span><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>]<span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span></b>Steve DelBianco<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:40 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span>[bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ICANN’s new gTLD Board Committee has requested public comment on how it should address GAC advice to establish safeguards for categories of new gTLDs. (</span><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/gac-safeguard-advice-23apr13-en.htm" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:purple'>link</span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The BC has have held 3 conference calls on this topic (see minutes and transcripts on the BC<span class=yiv2128043238apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:purple'>Wiki</span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>). Several BC members provided input, including text from Ron Andruff, Marilyn Cade, and Andrew Mack. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Comment period closes 4-Jun. That allows our regular 14-day review and approval period. So, please REPLY ALL with your suggested edits and comments regarding this draft, before 29-May-2013.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Steve DelBianco</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Vice chair for policy coordination</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Business Constituency</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><BC Comment on GAC Advice for new gTLDs DRAFT v1sd2 (2).docx><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>