<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">All,<div><br></div><div>Due to the difference in timezones, I missed this discussion as it was happening "live" and had the pleasure of catching up at my leisure whilst sipping my morning coffee :)</div><div><br></div><div>I have to admit to being very uncomfortable with the path this discussion seems to be taking. I have the words witch hunt forming in my mind.</div><div><br></div><div>My approach is this: I have an implicit trust that anyone… who is keen and engaged enough to take the time to read the emails on this list, take part in the discussions, be active in the BC calls or volunteer for BC work… is operating for the greater good of the BC.</div><div><br></div><div>I find any suggestion otherwise worrying. And actually quite discouraging. Does this mean that next time I make a comment that someone doesn't like, then I will also be put on the spot and asked to justify myself from a business point of view? So is it better for me to shut up rather than risk taking abuse?</div><div><br></div><div>Those who know me already know that I find it very hard to shut up, so that is hardly likely to happen :), but I do want to go on record here as saying that unless someone proves to me that any member of the BC is acting with ill intent, my base approach is to trust that people have exactly the same take on BC work as me: working for the good of the BC and the defense of the ICANN model which is the governance model that provides me, as a small business owner, with a voice in the Internet's ,naming and address governance discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Stéphane</div><div><br></div><div>Oh, and BTW, I don't work for any closed generics ;)</div><div><br>
<br><div><div>Le 23 mai 2013 à 23:44, Ron Andruff &lt;<a href="mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com">randruff@rnapartners.com</a>&gt; a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">


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<div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">As an observer to this string of debate,
it appears to me (and possibly other members) that you are obfuscating.&nbsp; You
have been asked on several occasions to declare your interests, but you parry
that question with more questions.&nbsp; What is holding you back from being up
front with the members and disclosing?&nbsp; Disclosure would, IMHO, lend more
credibility to your arguments. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Disclosure should be our first obligation
as members of the BC – considering the convoluted nature of our
membership today.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Ronald N. Andruff</span></font><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"><a href="http://www.rnapartners.com/">RNA
Partners, Inc.</a></span></font><span class="MsoHyperlink"><u><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><o:p></o:p></span></font></u></span></p>

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</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a> [mailto:owner-<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b><a href="mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com">jscottevans@yahoo.com</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:58
PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> icann@rodenbaugh.com;
icann@rodenbaugh.com; lhc@yahoo-inc.com; svg@stephanevangelder.com;
sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com;
sdelbianco@netchoice.org; bc-gnso@icann.org<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR
REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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  refer you to the USPTO's disposition of the various .music trademark
  applications. While not identical, the USPTO's reasoning is very solar to the
  concerns I have heard from others.<br>
  <br>
  J. Scott <br>
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</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">From: </span></font></b><font size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>&gt;; <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span></b>&lt;<a href="mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com">jscottevans@yahoo.com</a>&gt;;
&lt;<a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>&gt;; &lt;<a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>&gt;;
&lt;<a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>&gt;; &lt;<a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a>&gt;; <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span></b>&lt;<a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>&gt;;
&lt;<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>&gt;; &lt;<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>&gt;; <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span></b>RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR
REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent: </span></b>Thu, May 23, 2013 8:20:35 PM
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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  <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">All of my clients,
  and my law firm, have business interests much&nbsp; broader than the domain
  industry.</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D">Who are these people expressing grave concerns?&nbsp;
  Because I am only hearing competitors to so-called closed generic TLD
  applicants expressing concerns (including indirectly through their
  ICANN-connected government reps), with no evidence or any real specifics as
  to the parade of horribles they seem to envision.&nbsp; And certainly no
  counter-argument to the points I am raising.&nbsp; Do you or anyone else have
  any substantive response to any of those points?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D">Mike Rodenbaugh</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D">RODENBAUGH LAW</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D">Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="http://rodenbaugh.com/" target="_blank"><font size="2" color="#0563c1" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#0563C1">http://rodenbaugh.com</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
  font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> <a href="mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com">jscottevans@yahoo.com</a>
  [mailto:jscottevans@<a href="http://yahoo.com">yahoo.com</a>] <br>
  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 23, 2013
  1:10 PM<br>
  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>;
  <a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>; <a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>; <a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a><br>
  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
  <a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>; <a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>; <a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br>
  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR
  REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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    auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Mike:<br>
    <br>
    We appreciate your pov. However, there are many of us in this constituency
    that have business interests broader than the domain industry. In my
    discussions with these non-ICANNers, they have voiced grave concerns and
    want assurances similar to those put forward by Sarah and Laura in the
    latest draft. Do others gave perspective here?<br>
    <br>
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  font-weight:bold">From: </span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><a href="javascript:return" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>
  &lt;<a href="javascript:return" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>&gt;; <br>
  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span></b>'Laura Covington' &lt;<a href="javascript:return" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>&gt;;
  &lt;<a href="javascript:return" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>&gt;;
  'Deutsch, Sarah B' &lt;<a href="javascript:return" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a>&gt;;
  <br>
  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span></b>'Elisa Cooper' &lt;<a href="javascript:return" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>&gt;;
  'Steve DelBianco' &lt;<a href="javascript:return" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>&gt;; &lt;<a href="javascript:return" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>&gt;;
  <br>
  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span></b>RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR
  REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs <br>
  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent: </span></b>Thu, May 23, 2013 7:21:46
  PM </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">We went through exercise of
    trying to define categories like this, in 2006.&nbsp; Then in the Vertical
    Integration WG.&nbsp; Then again recently in the IPC.&nbsp; It can’t
    be done, as far as I know.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">The GAC didn’t bother to
    provide a definition either.&nbsp; Making any response problematic as we
    don’t really know what we are responding to.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
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    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Mike Rodenbaugh</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">RODENBAUGH LAW</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="http://rodenbaugh.com/" target="_blank"><font size="2" color="#0563c1" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#0563C1">http://rodenbaugh.com</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
    font-family:Calibri;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> Laura
    Covington [<a href="javascript:return" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com">mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>] <br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 23, 2013
    12:05 PM<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="javascript:return" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>;
    <a href="javascript:return" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>;
    'Deutsch, Sarah B'<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> 'Elisa Cooper'; 'Steve
    DelBianco'; <a href="javascript:return" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR
    REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="4" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">Hey, Mike,&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="4" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">I'm totally open to considering other
    definitions/terminology for "closed generics" if you have ideas
    to propose. &nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="4" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="4" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">As to the separate issue of responding to
    the GAC's advice, participants on the call the other day seemed interested
    in including – or at least considering - language on closed generics
    rather than being silent. &nbsp;It seems clear – and understandable -
    what your point of view is. &nbsp;Anybody else?&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">Laura</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">Laura Covington</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">Yahoo! Inc.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    Arial"><a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: bold; ">From: </span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; ">"</span></font><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a><font><span style="">" &lt;</span></font>icann@rodenbaugh.com<font><span style="">&gt;<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Organization: </span></b>Rodenbaugh Law<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span></b>"</span></font>mike@rodenbaugh.com<font><span style="">" &lt;</span></font>mike@rodenbaugh.com<font><span style="">&gt;<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span></b>Thursday, May 23, 2013
    11:13 AM<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span></b>"Yahoo! Inc."
    &lt;</span></font>lhc@yahoo-inc.com<font><span style="">&gt;, "</span></font>svg@stephanevangelder.com<font><span style="">" &lt;</span></font>svg@stephanevangelder.com<font><span style="">&gt;, "'Deutsch, Sarah B'"
    &lt;</span></font>sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com<font><span style="">&gt;<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span></b>'Elisa Cooper' &lt;</span></font>Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com<font><span style="">&gt;, 'Steve DelBianco' &lt;</span></font>sdelbianco@netchoice.org<font><span style="">&gt;, "</span></font>bc-gnso@icann.org<font><span style="">" &lt;</span></font>bc-gnso@icann.org<font><span style="">&gt;<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span></b>RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR
    REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></font></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">It seems that every dictionary
    word is a ‘pre-existing trademark’ at least insofar as it is
    registered as such somewhere (e.g. <st1:place w:st="on">Benelux</st1:place>,
    in advance of the EU land rush).&nbsp; My examples are all registered at
    the USPTO.&nbsp; Any of those registrations could be purchased or even be
    previously registered by any so-called ‘closed generic’ TLD
    applicant.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Why is it legitimate for Apple to
    operate .apple to the exclusion of everyone else in the world that may have
    a legitimate use for a .apple domain name?&nbsp; (Maybe better examples are
    other new TLD applicants Abbott, Active, AFamilyCompany, Amazon,
    AmericanFamily…&nbsp; and the list goes on past Apple….)
    &nbsp;Yet it would not be legitimate for <a href="http://Weather.com">Weather.com</a> to operate .weather
    that way?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Mike Rodenbaugh</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">RODENBAUGH LAW</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="http://rodenbaugh.com/" target="_blank"><font size="2" color="#0563c1" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#0563C1">http://rodenbaugh.com</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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    auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:
    11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; "> Laura Covington [</span></font><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com">mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a><font><span style="">] <br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 23, 2013
    10:54 AM<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Mike Rodenbaugh; </span></font>svg@stephanevangelder.com<font><span style="">; Deutsch, Sarah B<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Elisa Cooper; Steve
    DelBianco; </span></font>bc-gnso@icann.org<font><span style=""><br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR
    REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></font></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">Sticking with the definition piece first,
    doesn't second bullet cover your question? &nbsp;Pre-existing
    trademark?&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">Laura Covington</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: bold; ">From: </span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; ">Mike Rodenbaugh &lt;</span></font><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a><font><span style="">&gt;<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span></b>Mike Rodenbaugh &lt;</span></font>icann@rodenbaugh.com<font><span style="">&gt;<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span></b>Thursday, May 23, 2013
    10:42 AM<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span></b>"Yahoo! Inc."
    &lt;</span></font>lhc@yahoo-inc.com<font><span style="">&gt;, "</span></font>svg@stephanevangelder.com<font><span style="">" &lt;</span></font>svg@stephanevangelder.com<font><span style="">&gt;, "Deutsch, Sarah B"
    &lt;</span></font>sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com<font><span style="">&gt;<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span></b>Elisa Cooper &lt;</span></font>Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com<font><span style="">&gt;, Steve DelBianco &lt;</span></font>sdelbianco@netchoice.org<font><span style="">&gt;, "</span></font>bc-gnso@icann.org<font><span style="">" &lt;</span></font>bc-gnso@icann.org<font><span style="">&gt;<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span></b>Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR
    REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></font></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div>
    <div>
    <div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; ">Hi Laura,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; ">Then what about all the trademarks
    that exist for 'generic words'. &nbsp;Not just Apple, but also Sex, Drugs
    and even Rock 'n Roll (all registered at the USPTO)?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; ">Beyond that, what about the broader
    notion that closed generic business models are more in the public interest
    than open copycat business models? &nbsp;The BC is on record with the
    position that restricted registries are preferred over open registries,
    because abuse and consumer harm are far less likely.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; ">Best,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; ">Mike</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:
    0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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    <div>
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    <hr size="1" width="100%" align="center">
    </span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "> Laura Covington &lt;</span></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a><font><span style="">&gt;<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> "</span></font>svg@stephanevangelder.com<font><span style="">" &lt;</span></font>svg@stephanevangelder.com<font><span style="">&gt;; "Deutsch, Sarah B"
    &lt;</span></font>sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com<font><span style="">&gt; <br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Elisa Cooper &lt;</span></font>Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com<font><span style="">&gt;; Steve DelBianco &lt;</span></font>sdelbianco@netchoice.org<font><span style="">&gt;; "</span></font>bc-gnso@icann.org<font><span style="">" &lt;</span></font>bc-gnso@icann.org<font><span style="">&gt; <br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 23, 2013
    10:23 AM<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR
    REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></font></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <div id="yiv2128043238">
    <div>
    <div>
    <div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">I don’t know of any official
    definition of a closed generic TLD, but perhaps a starting place would be
    to say that it is a TLD that:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <ul type="disc">
     <li class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Consists
         of a generic term/phrase which&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
     <li class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Is
         not intended to represent a pre-existing trademark, and<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
     <li class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The
         registry operator does not intend to sell/grant/give second level
         domains to the (general?) public&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
    </ul>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div>
    <div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Laura Covington</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">VP, Intellectual Property Policy</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Yahoo! Inc.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">408.349.5187</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: bold; ">From:
    </span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; ">"</span></font><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a><font><span style="">" &lt;</span></font>svg@stephanevangelder.com<font><span style="">&gt;<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span></b>Thursday, May 23, 2013
    12:49 AM<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span></b>"Deutsch, Sarah
    B" &lt;</span></font>sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com<font><span style="">&gt;<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span></b>Elisa Cooper &lt;</span></font>Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com<font><span style="">&gt;, Steve DelBianco &lt;</span></font>sdelbianco@netchoice.org<font><span style="">&gt;, "</span></font>bc-gnso@icann.org<font><span style="">" &lt;</span></font>bc-gnso@icann.org<font><span style="">&gt;<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span></b>Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR
    REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></font></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Thanks Sarah, J. Scott and Laura for
    this work. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">I am wondering if there is a clear
    definition of what constitutes a closed generic TLD somewhere?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Failing that, what is to stop the
    criteria suggested in this text being imposed on, say, a brand that has a
    term resembling a generic term as its brand name and that would
    understandably like to operate it for its own exclusive use?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Thanks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Le 22 mai 2013 à 22:58, "Deutsch,
    Sarah B" &lt;</span></font><a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a><font><span style="">&gt; a écrit :</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">All,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><br>
    To follow up on our BC call this morning, &nbsp;we discussed why the
    existing draft asking ICANN to develop a non-specific public policy
    exemption in the Registry Code of Conduct for closed generics was not a
    good idea.&nbsp; Steve had encouraged me, J. Scott Evans and Laura
    Covington from Yahoo to put pen to paper and propose specific ideas
    (building on the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region>’s
    earlier GAC recommendations on closed generics) rather than for the BC to
    remain silent on this issue.&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Our proposed
    language is attached for Members’ consideration.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><br>
    Sarah</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
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    </span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
    10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Sarah B. Deutsch<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>
    Vice President &amp; Deputy General Counsel<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>
    Verizon Communications<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>
    Phone: 703-351-3044<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>
    Fax: 703-351-3670</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
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    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
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    <div>
    <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;</span></font></span><font size="2" color="purple" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
    Tahoma;color:purple"><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span></font><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;</span></font></span><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">[</span></font><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">mailto:owner-<font color="purple"><span style="color:purple"><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span></font><font><span style="">]<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b>Elisa
    Cooper<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, May 20, 2013
    3:34 PM<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Steve DelBianco<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></font><font color="purple"><span style="color:purple"><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span></font><font><span style=""><br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[bc-gnso] RE: FOR
    REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></font></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    </div>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Steve,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Thank you so
    much for all of your work on this.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Please find
    attached my edits to Sarah’s draft.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">As previously
    stated, I will recuse myself from comments related to Closed Generics. That
    said, I am concerned that the proposed comments in this draft may be at
    odds with our earlier position:</span></font><a href="http://www.bizconst.org/Positions-Statements/BC%20Comment%20on%20Closed%20Generic%20TLDs.pdf" target="_blank"><font size="2" color="purple" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:purple">http://www.bizconst.org/Positions-Statements/BC%20Comment%20on%20Closed%20Generic%20TLDs.pdf</span></font></a><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
    font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Thank you again.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Best,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Elisa</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Elisa Cooper</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Director of
    Product Marketing</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">MarkMonitor</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Elisa Cooper</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Chair</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">ICANN Business
    Constituency</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">208 389-5779 PH</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div>
    <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;</span></font></span><font size="2" color="purple" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
    Tahoma;color:purple"><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span></font><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;</span></font></span><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">[</span></font><font size="2" color="purple" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:purple"><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span></font><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">]<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b>Deutsch,
    Sarah B<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, May 20, 2013
    12:29 PM<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Steve DelBianco;<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></font><font size="2" color="purple" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
    Tahoma;color:purple"><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span></font><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[bc-gnso] RE: FOR
    REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    </div>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Steve, All,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><br>
    Thanks for your work on this draft. My comments are attached.&nbsp;
    &nbsp;One big issue I would flag for members is the paragraph dealing with
    closed generics.&nbsp;&nbsp; Various BC members have grave concerns about
    certain closed generics and formal objections have been filed.&nbsp; The
    focus on applying for an exemption in the Final Guidebook does not fix
    these fundamental concerns for the reasons outlined in the attached.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">I’d suggest
    that the BC either (a) refrain from taking a position on the closed generic
    issue altogether or (b) support the GAC’s concerns about closed
    generics and the need to show that an award of an exclusive right in a
    generic term is in the larger public interest. &nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Sarah</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    <div>
    <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
    <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;background:white"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;</span></font></span><font size="2" color="purple" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
    Tahoma;color:purple"><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span></font><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;</span></font></span><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">[</span></font><font size="2" color="purple" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:purple"><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span></font><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">]<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of<span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b>Steve
    DelBianco<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, May 15,
    2013 4:40 PM<br>
    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></font><font size="2" color="purple" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span class="yiv2128043238apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW:
    draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    gTLD Board Committee has requested public comment on how it should address
    GAC advice to establish safeguards for categories of new gTLDs. (</span></font><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/gac-safeguard-advice-23apr13-en.htm" target="_blank"><font color="purple" face="Calibri"><span style="font-family:
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    held 3 conference calls on this topic (see minutes and transcripts on the
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    &nbsp;Several BC members provided input, including text from Ron Andruff,
    Marilyn Cade, and Andrew Mack. &nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    closes 4-Jun. &nbsp;&nbsp;That allows our regular 14-day review and
    approval period. &nbsp;So,&nbsp;please REPLY ALL with your suggested edits
    and comments regarding this draft,&nbsp;before 29-May-2013.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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