<div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Dear BC Members,</span></div><div><div class="im" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Firstly, we would like to thank everyone for this discussion that has been quite interesting to follow. Sometimes a not so comforting dialogue also serves to put some light in issues that otherwise are not discussed at all. </span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div></div><div class="im"><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Regarding closed generics, we support the edits proposed by Laura Covington, </span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">J. Scott Evans and Sarah Deutsch.</font></span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">We would like to add to these discussions th</font><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">e following viewpoint from a developing country organization and also in support of Phil Corwin´s arguments and others in the same line of analysis:</span></span></div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">In our region ICANN is mostly perceived by those who are lucky enough to know what ICANN is - and what it does-, as an American organization that only serves american commercial/trademark interests (you can replace by "developed world" interests...) . This is the simplified version of the ideas that are in most people's minds, including of course, relevant stakeholders. </span></div>
<div class="im" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">If we take a simple look at the current contracted parties, as well as the current new gTLDs applications, and where they come from, these perceptions might seem quite reasonable from a developing country viewpoint observer that does not know too much about ICANN processes, and who only reads results. </span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Having said this, we support these edits and we add to the analysis being shared this other dimension in the sense that if ICANN wants to actually be a real global multistakeholder organization we, as business users, should be very carefull in every aspect that will make this organization look like supporting the idea of participating in the creation of any monopoly to US/EU companies (or delegating geographical names of developing countries regions to US companies), particularly when the perception around the globe is that the whole new gTLDs program has left behind some of the regions in which the use of the Internet is growing so rapidly. </span></div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">We understand that closed generics can bring innovation in some cases, and we also understand that this is not a black and white situation and that many different business models are behing these applications. We are only concerned about giving the right message to businesses/civil society/governments worldwide on what ICANN does and why is important that we will have this multistakeholder model in place. In this sense is that we expect BC members to be sensitive in this closed generics issue and recommend all necesarry meassures needed to defend the public interest, as well as consumers, innovation, competition and businesses from other regions. </span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">All of this in order to defend ICANN¨s model above all, and help this entity become a</span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> </span><b>real</b><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> </span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">global multistakeholder organization. </span></div>
<div class="im" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Gabi & Celia </span></div>
</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Latin American e-Commerce Institute (eInstituto)</span></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Ps. We also clarify that we do not advise or counsel any new gTLD applicant. </span></div>
</div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/24 Mari Jo Keukelaar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mj@johnberryhill.com" target="_blank">mj@johnberryhill.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="blue"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I, too, found yesterdays dialogue discomforting. Although I do not have anything to do with closed generics, it does seem that the process itself did not foreclose on applying for them. I also see that closed generics do raise issues that closed TM TLDs do not. Yesterdays discussion did nothing to clarify the issues that Mr. Evans, et al were attempting to address in their comments, but did ask an attorney to make full disclosures about clients that, as attorneys themselves, they recognize may be impossible to make. I think Mike was clear that he represents parties applying for closed generics and that he disagreed with the comments being put forth by this group and that he preferred those made by Steve’s original proposition. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I generally do not comment when I do not hold strong positions that have nothing to do with the business I represent. Whenever I have commented, however, the BC has always been highly respectful of my minority opinion. So rest assured, Stephane, that this was a rare event.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:stephvg@gmail.com" target="_blank">stephvg@gmail.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 24, 2013 6:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Andruff<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">All,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Due to the difference in timezones, I missed this discussion as it was happening "live" and had the pleasure of catching up at my leisure whilst sipping my morning coffee :)<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I have to admit to being very uncomfortable with the path this discussion seems to be taking. I have the words witch hunt forming in my mind.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">My approach is this: I have an implicit trust that anyone… who is keen and engaged enough to take the time to read the emails on this list, take part in the discussions, be active in the BC calls or volunteer for BC work… is operating for the greater good of the BC.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I find any suggestion otherwise worrying. And actually quite discouraging. Does this mean that next time I make a comment that someone doesn't like, then I will also be put on the spot and asked to justify myself from a business point of view? So is it better for me to shut up rather than risk taking abuse?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Those who know me already know that I find it very hard to shut up, so that is hardly likely to happen :), but I do want to go on record here as saying that unless someone proves to me that any member of the BC is acting with ill intent, my base approach is to trust that people have exactly the same take on BC work as me: working for the good of the BC and the defense of the ICANN model which is the governance model that provides me, as a small business owner, with a voice in the Internet's ,naming and address governance discussion.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Stéphane<u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Oh, and BTW, I don't work for any closed generics ;)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Le 23 mai 2013 à 23:44, Ron Andruff <<a href="mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com" target="_blank">randruff@rnapartners.com</a>> a écrit :<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br>
<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Mike,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">As an observer to this string of debate, it appears to me (and possibly other members) that you are obfuscating. You have been asked on several occasions to declare your interests, but you parry that question with more questions. What is holding you back from being up front with the members and disclosing? Disclosure would, IMHO, lend more credibility to your arguments. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Disclosure should be our first obligation as members of the BC – considering the convoluted nature of our membership today.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Thank you.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Kind regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">RA</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Ronald N. Andruff</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue"><a href="http://www.rnapartners.com/" target="_blank">RNA Partners, Inc.</a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-" target="_blank">owner-</a><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jscottevans@yahoo.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>; <a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>; <a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>; <a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>; <a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>; <a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>; <a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal">Oh, and as to a counter-argument to your position, I refer you to the USPTO's disposition of the various .music trademark applications. While not identical, the USPTO's reasoning is very solar to the concerns I have heard from others.<br>
<br>J. Scott <br><br><br>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone<u></u><u></u></p></td></tr></tbody></table><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a> <<a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>>; <br>
<b>To: </b><<a href="mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jscottevans@yahoo.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a>>; <br>
<b>Cc: </b><<a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>; <<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>>; <br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs <br><b>Sent: </b>Thu, May 23, 2013 8:20:35 PM </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="13ed716c55be1d6d__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">All of my clients, and my law firm, have business interests much broader than the domain industry.</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Who are these people expressing grave concerns? Because I am only hearing competitors to so-called closed generic TLD applicants expressing concerns (including indirectly through their ICANN-connected government reps), with no evidence or any real specifics as to the parade of horribles they seem to envision. And certainly no counter-argument to the points I am raising. Do you or anyone else have any substantive response to any of those points?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Mike Rodenbaugh</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">RODENBAUGH LAW</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://rodenbaugh.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0563c1">http://rodenbaugh.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jscottevans@yahoo.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:jscottevans@" target="_blank">jscottevans@</a><a href="http://yahoo.com" target="_blank">yahoo.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>; <a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>; <a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>; <a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>; <a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>; <a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr>
<td valign="top" style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal">Mike:<br><br>We appreciate your pov. However, there are many of us in this constituency that have business interests broader than the domain industry. In my discussions with these non-ICANNers, they have voiced grave concerns and want assurances similar to those put forward by Sarah and Laura in the latest draft. Do others gave perspective here?<br>
<br><br>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone<u></u><u></u></p></td></tr></tbody></table><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal">
<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a>icann@rodenbaugh.com</a> <<a>icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>>; <br>
<b>To: </b>'Laura Covington' <<a>lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>>; <<a>svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>>; 'Deutsch, Sarah B' <<a>sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a>>; <br><b>Cc: </b>'Elisa Cooper' <<a>Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>>; 'Steve DelBianco' <<a>sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>; <<a>bc-gnso@icann.org</a>>; <br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs <br><b>Sent: </b>Thu, May 23, 2013 7:21:46 PM </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We went through exercise of trying to define categories like this, in 2006. Then in the Vertical Integration WG. Then again recently in the IPC. It can’t be done, as far as I know.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The GAC didn’t bother to provide a definition either. Making any response problematic as we don’t really know what we are responding to.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Mike Rodenbaugh</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">RODENBAUGH LAW</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://rodenbaugh.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0563c1">http://rodenbaugh.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Laura Covington [<a>mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a>mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>; <a>svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>; 'Deutsch, Sarah B'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Elisa Cooper'; 'Steve DelBianco'; <a>bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Hey, Mike, </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I'm totally open to considering other definitions/terminology for "closed generics" if you have ideas to propose. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">As to the separate issue of responding to the GAC's advice, participants on the call the other day seemed interested in including – or at least considering - language on closed generics rather than being silent. It seems clear – and understandable - what your point of view is. Anybody else? </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Laura</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Laura Covington</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">VP, Intellectual Property Policy</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Yahoo! Inc.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">408.349.5187</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">"<a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>><br>
<b>Organization: </b>Rodenbaugh Law<br><b>Reply-To: </b>"<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:13 AM<br><b>To: </b>"Yahoo! Inc." <<a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>>, "'Deutsch, Sarah B'" <<a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>'Elisa Cooper' <<a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>>, 'Steve DelBianco' <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It seems that every dictionary word is a ‘pre-existing trademark’ at least insofar as it is registered as such somewhere (e.g. Benelux, in advance of the EU land rush). My examples are all registered at the USPTO. Any of those registrations could be purchased or even be previously registered by any so-called ‘closed generic’ TLD applicant.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Why is it legitimate for Apple to operate .apple to the exclusion of everyone else in the world that may have a legitimate use for a .apple domain name? (Maybe better examples are other new TLD applicants Abbott, Active, AFamilyCompany, Amazon, AmericanFamily… and the list goes on past Apple….) Yet it would not be legitimate for <a href="http://Weather.com" target="_blank">Weather.com</a> to operate .weather that way?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Mike Rodenbaugh</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">RODENBAUGH LAW</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Tel/Fax: +1.415.738.8087</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Laura Covington [<a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mike Rodenbaugh; <a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>; Deutsch, Sarah B<br><b>Cc:</b> Elisa Cooper; Steve DelBianco; <a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sticking with the definition piece first, doesn't second bullet cover your question? Pre-existing trademark? </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Laura Covington</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">VP, Intellectual Property Policy</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Yahoo! Inc.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div>
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</div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:42 AM<br><b>To: </b>"Yahoo! Inc." <<a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>>, "Deutsch, Sarah B" <<a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Elisa Cooper <<a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>>, Steve DelBianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Hi Laura,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Then what about all the trademarks that exist for 'generic words'. Not just Apple, but also Sex, Drugs and even Rock 'n Roll (all registered at the USPTO)?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Beyond that, what about the broader notion that closed generic business models are more in the public interest than open copycat business models? The BC is on record with the position that restricted registries are preferred over open registries, because abuse and consumer harm are far less likely.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Best,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Mike</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Laura Covington <<a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> "<a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>>; "Deutsch, Sarah B" <<a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a>> <br>
<b>Cc:</b> Elisa Cooper <<a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>>; Steve DelBianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>; "<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:23 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">I don’t know of any official definition of a closed generic TLD, but perhaps a starting place would be to say that it is a TLD that:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;background-repeat:initial initial">Consists of a generic term/phrase which <u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;background-repeat:initial initial">Is not intended to represent a pre-existing trademark, and<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;background-repeat:initial initial">
The registry operator does not intend to sell/grant/give second level domains to the (general?) public <u></u><u></u></li></ul><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
Laura Covington<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">VP, Intellectual Property Policy<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Yahoo! Inc.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><a href="mailto:lhc@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">lhc@yahoo-inc.com</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">408.349.5187<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">"<a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:49 AM<br><b>To: </b>"Deutsch, Sarah B" <<a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>Elisa Cooper <<a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" target="_blank">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>>, Steve DelBianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Thanks Sarah, J. Scott and Laura for this work. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
I am wondering if there is a clear definition of what constitutes a closed generic TLD somewhere?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
Failing that, what is to stop the criteria suggested in this text being imposed on, say, a brand that has a term resembling a generic term as its brand name and that would understandably like to operate it for its own exclusive use?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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</div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Le 22 mai 2013 à 22:58, "Deutsch, Sarah B" <<a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</a>> a écrit :<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"> <u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">All,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><br>To follow up on our BC call this morning, we discussed why the existing draft asking ICANN to develop a non-specific public policy exemption in the Registry Code of Conduct for closed generics was not a good idea. Steve had encouraged me, J. Scott Evans and Laura Covington from Yahoo to put pen to paper and propose specific ideas (building on the Australia’s earlier GAC recommendations on closed generics) rather than for the BC to remain silent on this issue. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Our proposed language is attached for Members’ consideration.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
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Sarah</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Sarah B. Deutsch<span> </span><br>
Vice President & Deputy General Counsel<span> </span><br>Verizon Communications<span> </span><br>Phone: 703-351-3044<span> </span><br>Fax: 703-351-3670</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
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</div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple"><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-" target="_blank">owner-</a><span style="color:purple"><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Elisa Cooper<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Monday, May 20, 2013 3:34 PM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Steve DelBianco<br><b>Cc:</b><span> </span><span style="color:purple"><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Steve,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thank you so much for all of your work on this.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Please find attached my edits to Sarah’s draft.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As previously stated, I will recuse myself from comments related to Closed Generics. That said, I am concerned that the proposed comments in this draft may be at odds with our earlier position:</span><a href="http://www.bizconst.org/Positions-Statements/BC%20Comment%20on%20Closed%20Generic%20TLDs.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:purple">http://www.bizconst.org/Positions-Statements/BC%20Comment%20on%20Closed%20Generic%20TLDs.pdf</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thank you again.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Elisa</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Elisa Cooper</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Director of Product Marketing</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">MarkMonitor</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Elisa Cooper</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Chair</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">ICANN Business Constituency</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
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<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple"><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">[<span style="color:purple"><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Deutsch, Sarah B<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Monday, May 20, 2013 12:29 PM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Steve DelBianco;<span> </span><span style="color:purple"><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[bc-gnso] RE: FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><br>Thanks for your work on this draft. My comments are attached. One big issue I would flag for members is the paragraph dealing with closed generics. Various BC members have grave concerns about certain closed generics and formal objections have been filed. The focus on applying for an exemption in the Final Guidebook does not fix these fundamental concerns for the reasons outlined in the attached.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’d suggest that the BC either (a) refrain from taking a position on the closed generic issue altogether or (b) support the GAC’s concerns about closed generics and the need to show that an award of an exclusive right in a generic term is in the larger public interest. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Sarah</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple"><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">[<span style="color:purple"><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Steve DelBianco<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:40 PM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span><span style="color:purple"><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a></span><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW: draft BC comment on GAC Advice on safeguards for new gTLDs</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">ICANN’s new gTLD Board Committee has requested public comment on how it should address GAC advice to establish safeguards for categories of new gTLDs. (</span><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/gac-safeguard-advice-23apr13-en.htm" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:purple">link</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The BC has have held 3 conference calls on this topic (see minutes and transcripts on the BC<span> </span></span><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:purple">Wiki</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">). Several BC members provided input, including text from Ron Andruff, Marilyn Cade, and Andrew Mack. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Comment period closes 4-Jun. That allows our regular 14-day review and approval period. So, please REPLY ALL with your suggested edits and comments regarding this draft, before 29-May-2013.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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