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<font size="2"><p>I am also not an IP lawyer. I never considered that CSG demands were providing any extra rights to TM holders - just improved mechanisms to prevent/enforce against infringement and malicious behaviour. Concerns were raised but most were ill-informed. <br><br>I think this all centres on balance within the multi-stakeholder model and constituencies should be concerned about unforeseen consequences, should the Board accept this specific advise. <br><br>DotBrand applicants, amongst others, are concerned with the ongoing security and stability of the Internet, and they are intent on providing extremely controlled and safe environments for Internet users, as well as introducing innovation to the digital economy. I believe this aligns extremely well with BC values and so I support J Scott's approach. &nbsp;<br><br>Martin<br><br>Martin Sutton<br>Manager, Group Fraud Risk and Intelligence<br>Ph: &nbsp;++44 (0)20 7991 8074<br>Mob: &nbsp;++44 (0)777 4556680<br>Sent from my BlackBerry<br><br>*********************************<br><br>HSBC Holdings plc<br>Registered Office: 8 Canada Square, London E14 5HQ, United Kingdom<br>Registered in England number 617987<br><br>*********************************<br></p></font><hr><font size="2"><p><b>&nbsp; From: </b>&quot;BRUEGGEMAN, JEFF&quot; [jb7454@att.com]<br><b>&nbsp; Sent: </b>15/07/2013 20:14 GMT<br><b>&nbsp; To: </b>&quot;mike@rodenbaugh.com&quot; &lt;mike@rodenbaugh.com&gt;; &quot;'J. Scott Evans'&quot; &lt;jscottevans@yahoo.com&gt;; &quot;sdelbianco@netchoice.org&quot; &lt;sdelbianco@netchoice.org&gt;; &quot;bc-gnso@icann.org&quot; &lt;bc-gnso@icann.org&gt;<br><b>&nbsp; Subject: </b>RE: [bc-gnso] Updated ICANN New gTLD Committee resolutions on GAC Advice from &nbsp;Beijing<br></p></font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I am not an IP lawyer, but are there middle-ground options for ICANN to implement some type of protection short of a complete block?&nbsp; After all, concerns were
 raised that the CSG was seeking TM protections that went beyond the law too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>icann@rodenbaugh.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 15, 2013 3:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'J. Scott Evans'; sdelbianco@netchoice.org; bc-gnso@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] Updated ICANN New gTLD Committee resolutions on GAC Advice from Beijing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I am in complete agreement on this.</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Mike Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Tel/Fax: &#43;1.415.738.8087<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org">mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>J. Scott Evans<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 15, 2013 3:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [bc-gnso] Updated ICANN New gTLD Committee resolutions on GAC Advice from Beijing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here is a bit more about my reasoning:<br>
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Geographic regions do not have global protection. Some jurisdictions provide geographic indication protections – but that is done legislatively, be it nationally or through treaties - not de facto. And it is a highly contentious process.
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What the GAC is asking is that ICANN propel geographic terms – and not just country names are recognized, but any term a particular jurisdiction decides is regionally sensitive – to a level of legislatively or treaty-based recognition. National and international
 law does not provide for this. While it is not technically “law,” it is having that impact through ICANN processes.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Steve DelBianco &lt;<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>&gt;;
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<b>To: </b>bc - GNSO list &lt;<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org">bc-gnso@icann.org</a>&gt;;
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<b>Subject: </b>[bc-gnso] Updated ICANN New gTLD Committee resolutions on GAC Advice from Beijing
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<b>Sent: </b>Mon, Jul 15, 2013 10:31:30 AM <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Category 1 strings are on hold, pending dialogue with GAC in Durban.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">International government organizations (IGO) get temporary 2nd level protection — to be resolved later this year. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But&nbsp;if NGPC and GAC do not reach agreement on implementation issues by the first meeting after Durban, registry operators are required to protect only the IGO names identified on the GAC's &quot;IGO List dated 22/03/2013&quot; Annex 1&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The GAC Beijing Advice is
<a href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/correspondence/gac-to-board-18apr13-en.pdf%20" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">BC Comments on GAC Safeguards is
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Board New gTLD Program Committee's 4-Jun resolution is
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Board New gTLD Program Committee's 25-Jun resolution is
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