<div dir="ltr">Thanks Bene,<div><br></div><div style>Your explanations are very useful and provide great historical context.</div><div style><br></div><div style>I see no reason why nominations could not be sent to the list and made public, whilst being recorded by the voting officers.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>This is the way it's done in the registrars SG and in all my years there, I cannot recall ever witnessing an election problem.</div><div style><br></div><div style>I would add that transparency in the RrSG extends to the votes, which are published after the elections.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>I have always found this to be a very efficient way of allowing the voters to check that their votes were properly accepted and recorded. So to me that is another step in the direction of good election processes.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Please note that these are suggestions based on my own personal experience and penchant for transparency. I hope people do not feel I am overstepping in discussing this.</div><div style><br>
</div><div style>Best,</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">Stéphane Van Gelder<br>Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur<br>STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING<br><br>T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 October 2013 08:51, Benedetta Rossi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-secretariat@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="FR" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Dear BC Members,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thank you for your feedback regarding the election process, it is very helpful. I will compile all comments received and aggregate them in order to improve the election procedure as much as possible, and bring it to the Executive Committee for approval for the next election. The current election procedure was indeed approved by the Executive Committee prior to the opening of the election.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In terms of historical procedures I can only speak from 2011 onwards, date I started working for the BC, and the procedure was very similar to the current one for elections, I just compiled the document making the procedure clearer for members without changing the actual procedure itself. In the previous Secretariat’s procedures manual the procedure was indeed the same. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">For this election I changed what Sarah mentioned and moved the date of the opening of the votes to the same date as the reception of ballots to avoid having members voting prior to the opening of the vote, as it happened in the last election. Thank you again for your feedback, Sarah. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regarding the closed nomination process, as Chris mentioned the Voting Officer is bound by the BC Charter (Section 8.2.3 – Special Rules for Elections) to not announce nominations until the close of the nomination period. Members nominating or being nominated are allowed to announce their nominations if they so wish. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The actual process by which members submit their votes to <a href="mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com" target="_blank"><span style>bcvotes@hotmail.com</span></a> is in place to allow access to the Verifying Officer and Returning Officer, and for records, but could be modified for members to submit their nominations directly to the BC list moving forward, if this is what members wish to do. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">As previously noted I will gather all of the submitted comments, modify the election procedure for future elections, and submit it to the Executive Committee for approval.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thank you ever so much,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div class="im"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Kind Regards,</span><span lang="IT" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Benedetta Rossi<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">BC Secretariat<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://bc-secretariat@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-secretariat@icann.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:gabrielaszlak@gmail.com" target="_blank">gabrielaszlak@gmail.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> jeudi 17 octobre 2013 08:23<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank">svg@stephanevangelder.com</a>; Michael Castello<br><b>Cc:</b> Sarah Deutsch; Benedetta Rossi; bc - GNSO list</span></p>
<div><div class="h5"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p></div></div><div>
<div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear all,<br><br>I also do not know why nominations are private and I agree with Stephane -and others who have supported his initial comment-, on a more open process.<br>
<br>I am happy to share I have been also nominated for the GNSO councilor position.<br><br>Regards,<br>Gabi<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Movistar (<a href="http://www.movistar.com.ar" target="_blank">http://www.movistar.com.ar</a>)<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From: </span></b><span lang="EN-US">Stephane Van Gelder Consulting <</span><a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US">> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Sender: </span></b><a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a> <span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Date: </b>Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:09:00 +0200<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">To: </span></b><span lang="EN-US">Michael Castello<</span><a href="mailto:michaelc@traveler.com" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">michaelc@traveler.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US">><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">ReplyTo: </span></b><a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a> <span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Cc: </span></b><span lang="EN-US">Deutsch, Sarah B<</span><a href="mailto:sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">sarah.b.deutsch@verizon.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US">>; </span><a href="mailto:svg@stephanevangelder.com%3csvg@stephanevangelder.com" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">svg@stephanevangelder.com<svg@stephanevangelder.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US">>; Benedetta Rossi<</span><a href="mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">bc-secretariat@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US">>; </span><a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org%3cbc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">bc-gnso@icann.org<bc-gnso@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US">><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Subject: </b>Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Michael,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Your gesture is much appreciated.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Stéphane Van Gelder<br>
Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur<br>STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING<br><br>T (FR): <a href="tel:%2B33%20%280%296%2020%2040%2055%2089" value="+33620405589" target="_blank">+33 (0)6 20 40 55 89</a><br>T (UK): <a href="tel:%2B44%20%280%297583%20457053" value="+447583457053" target="_blank">+44 (0)7583 457053</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 17 October 2013 05:02, Michael Castello <<a href="mailto:michaelc@traveler.com" target="_blank">michaelc@traveler.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Hello Sarah,<br>
<br>Since there is appears to be consensus on open nominations; I placed Phil Corwin in nomination for the GNSO seat. <span style="color:#888888"><br><br><span>Michael Castello</span><br><span>CEO/President</span><br><span>Castello Cities Internet Network, Inc.</span><br>
<span><a href="http://www.ccin.com" target="_blank">http://www.ccin.com</a></span><br><span><a href="mailto:michael@ccin.com" target="_blank">michael@ccin.com</a></span><br><br><span>--</span></span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 2:53:01 PM, you wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I agree. We’ve spent countless hours as a constituency trying to fix a series of practices that could reasonably be perceived inside and outside the BC as election irregularities. The entire notion of having “private nominations” is a vestige from our past closed practices. <br>
<br>As a reminder, some of the election issues we’ve recently had to address included: (1) advocating for an actual fair election vs. the appointment of the Nomcom seat; (2) debating whether the separate seats on the Nomcom for small and large business representatives were somehow interchangeable; and (3) recent issues notifying members about the opening of the elections and then informing members who voted right away that their ballots were received “too early” and needed to be resubmitted. <br>
<br>Can we all just agree that we should err on the side of openness with everything associated with BC elections? If there are differing points of view, perhaps we consult with ICANN staff about the best way to address this concern?<br>
<br>Thanks,<br> <br>Sarah<br> <br> <br><br><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Sarah B. Deutsch <br>Vice President & Deputy General Counsel <br>Verizon Communications <br>
Phone: 703-351-3044 <br>Fax: 703-351-3670 <br></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> <br> <br> <br></span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-bc-gnso@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephane Van Gelder Consulting<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> Benedetta Rossi; <a href="mailto:bc-gnso@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-gnso@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bc-gnso] BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business Seat on Nominating Committee Elections: Nominations close on Friday, Oct. 18th<br>
</span><span style> <br>Hi everyone,<br> <br>I would like te reiterate that I find it very odd that as a group, we prefer to have private nominations.<br> <br>If I am willing to support someone, I have no qualms about making that support public. Moreover, I find it troublesome that as a BC member, I do not know <u>until the nomination deadline has passed</u> whether someone has been nominated for a position or not.<br>
<br>I am left with having to try to read into a reminder message such as this one whether it is being sent two days before the deadline because there have been no nominations, or because it's just two days before the deadline.<br>
<br>And if I did know what nominations had been made, especially if none had been made, I might be spurred on to reach out to other potential candidates and try to get them on board. But with the current private nomination system, I just don't know.<br>
<br>Is there a historical reason for having private nominations? Do others feel, like I do, that it's time to put an end to the secrecy and to run fully transparent election processes?<br> <br>Thanks,<br><br>Stéphane Van Gelder<br>
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LinkedIn: <a href="http://fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/" target="_blank">fr.linkedin.com/in/domainconsultant/</a><br> <br>On 16 October 2013 18:47, Benedetta Rossi <<a href="mailto:bc-secretariat@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-secretariat@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"">From: BC Secretariat<br>Date: October 16th, 2013<br>CC: Glen De Saint Gery, Returning Officer ,Robert Hoggarth, Verifying Officer</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">, <a href="mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"">bcvotes@hotmail.com</span></b></a><br>
</span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"">Re: BC GNSO Councilor & Small Business NomCom Seat Elections: Reminder – Nominations Close on Friday, Oct.18th<br><br>
</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"">Please note that this is the announcement for the BC elections for one of the two BC GNSO Councilor seats and the Small Business Seat on the Nominating Committee . <b><u>Please note that the nomination period will close on Friday, October 18th</u></b>. If you would like to submit a nomination, please follow the procedure outlined in the election procedure attached, and submit your nomination to the <a href="mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com" target="_blank">bcvotes@hotmail.com</a> email address prior to Friday COB. <br>
Candidate statements should also be sent to the <a href="mailto:bcvotes@hotmail.com" target="_blank">bcvotes@hotmail.com</a> no later than Sunday, Oct. 20th. <br><b><i><u>Once again, please refer to the attachment for the full details regarding this election.<br>
<br></u></i></b>Transmitted by the BC Secretariat: Benedetta Rossi, serving as Voting Officer<br></span><span style> <br></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">-- <br></span><span style>Kind Regards,<br>
<br>Benedetta Rossi<br>BC Secretariat<br><a href="http://bc-secretariat@icann.org" target="_blank">bc-secretariat@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsobc/Home</a><br>
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