<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I also believe the recommendation of the CCWG was to remove subsections B-E. We did have representatives (or at least members) of the directly affected communities (i.e., numbers and protocols) on the call and they concurred in this recommendation.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Schaefer, Brett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org" target="_blank">Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I agree with Andrew.<br>
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On May 12, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Gregory, Holly <<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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The Recommendation does not currently say "remove." If that is what CCWG wants, then the Recommendation should say so. We are seeking clarity about what the CCWG recommendation is.<br>
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<div><div class="h5">Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Lawyers Comments and Concerns re CCWG Comment - Version 2<br>
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Hi,<br>
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On comment 2 in this comments-on-the-comment document, it says this:<br>
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Lawyers’ comment: What is the recommendation and what direction is<br>
the CCWG-Accountability providing to the legal drafters? In our<br>
May 7, 2016 comments on the draft CCWG-Accountability comment<br>
letter, we suggested a recommendation: “We request that the groups<br>
most directly involved with the documents addressed in subsections<br>
(B) through (E) weigh in on the need to include grandfathering<br>
language for those documents. Depending on such input, a final<br>
determination should be made as to whether those documents should<br>
be included in the grandfathering provision.”<br>
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I don't get what's obscure here. The CCWG's comment is that the<br>
mentioned subsections have no justification in the CCWG Proposal.<br>
There's precisely one thing to do in such a case: remove the<br>
subsection. It would be helpful, at least to me, to understand why<br>
the drafters do not understand this.<br>
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The time for substantive change to the Proposal is over. If the<br>
Proposal has deficiencies, we will have to cope with them later. The<br>
task is to implement the Proposal in bylaws language, and that's it.<br>
Anything not founded in either the Proposal or the facts of relevant<br>
law is not something that should appear in any changed bylaws text.<br>
The community consensus must be treated as fundamental, or all<br>
legitimacy of this process will be lost.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
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A<br>
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Andrew Sullivan<br>
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