<div dir="auto">Thank you Joanna. Happy to leave it in the CBWG teams capable hands.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">M</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, 5:39 am Joanna Kulesza, <<a href="mailto:joannakulesza@gmail.com">joannakulesza@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Dear Abdulkarim, Maureen and all,</p>
<p>thank you for this thoughtful input. The ICANN Learn course is in
the works. We're scheduled to have a call with our speakers this
coming week. All of your thoughts and concerns will be shared.
Jonathan is leading the work on CPWG policy development. I will be
sure to share you thoughts with him and make sure they are well
reflected in the course outline. <br>
</p>
<p>Thank you again,</p>
<p>Joanna <br>
</p>
<div>W dniu 07.04.2020 o 00:32, ABDULKARIM
AYOPO OLOYEDE pisze:<br>
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<div>Dear Maureen,
<div dir="auto">Thank you for this email. Only yesterday I
was thinking of developing such a course for some group of
people AFRALO members who wanted clarification on the At
large public comment process. I think I now understand
where some of the confusions were coming from.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"> I think having such a module is important
because it would help to improve participation from a
lot of those who don't currently understand the process.
Like you mentioned, when it comes to statement writing I
believe the process we use is open and transparent but I
must say it is quite complicated to understand especially
for someone who does not have the time to attend CPWG or
does not understand what CPWG does. Therefore I agree that
an ICANN learn course on this is important. I have to
thank Jonathan for personally taking me through the
process a while ago as I must confess, It took me a while
to understand it too and if not for Jonathan I might still
be struggling it with. Having Jonathan to take everyone
through it is impossible and having such module in fine
details would help. </div>
<div dir="auto"> I would be happy to take a lead/work with
any other person in putting together such a module as I
believe it is very important. I would also take a look at
what NCUC has done and see how it can be improved. I would
also discuss with Joanna and Alfredo in the next couple of
days on how to move this forward</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thank you </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">AK</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 5 Apr 2020,
06:48 Maureen Hilyard, <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Team<br>
<div><br>
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<div>
<div>Has anyone looked at the current ICANN Learn
Policy writing course which was developed by NCUC?
It definitely highlighted an approach that was
quite different from our own. I was quite
disappointed because I don't think that it is
useful in addressing the more inclusive
fact-gathering, consensus model of developing a
statement that we use in At-Large and
particularly by the CPWG.
This process would be appropriate for a policy or
a non-policy issue.
</div>
<div><br>
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<div>But there was a good section that explained the
purpose of the Public Comment. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>From an At-Large point of view, I wondered if
our CB team could ensure that an At-Large "public
comment" course might focus more on the
methodology that is used by the CPWG where much
time is spent on:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>* participants from across the array of
backgrounds within At-Large offering their views
after analysing the purpose of the request and the
resource material around the topic to sort out how
a particular policy is relevant to our section of
ICANN - end-users </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>* herding the discussions in a way that gathers
information while at the same time tries to
balance the various end-user perspectives into a
cohesive argument - this is an important task
requiring some major skills, for example: </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1) great moderation skills which are
demonstrated well by Jonathan and Olivier esp
keeping participant contributions focused,
relevant and non-repetitive
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2) seeking views from within the group from
people who have the appropriate level of knowledge
and can articulate their views in such a way that
others can support or add further perspectives
which might capture a more directed approach to a
statement that fits the enduser point of view</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>3) From among the many articulated views which
have been captured by an initial penholder or
penholders, a small group may start moulding the
various perspectives into a logical argument that
will form the basis of a consensus end-user
viewpoint </div>
<div> </div>
<div>4) The draft statement is then presented to the
CPWG for further discussion and fine-tuning, to
create a final statement. Several iterations of
this process may be required before the statement
is complete.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>* While developing the course it might be
appropriate to offer some examples of what each
stage might entail, during the process of
information gathering, putting it into a
presentation (or a series of presentations) to
collate all the different ideas and
perspectives, then finalising the statement. .</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>5) One constraint on this process is the
restrictive timeframe given by the requestors with
regards to the time allowed for this important
discussion, especially if it is of greater
importance to the end-user community. This has
required single topic sessions on top of the
already assigned weekly sessions. This is a big
commitment for volunteers. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>6) ICANN staff complete the statement document
in preparation for its delivery to the requestors
of the comments, before ratification by the ALAC.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>M</div>
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