[cc-humanrights] Recording & Transcript - ICANN & Human Rights Conference Call | 30 Mar 2015

Maryam Bakoshi maryam.bakoshi at icann.org
Wed Apr 1 18:36:07 UTC 2015

Dear All,

Please find attached and below transcript and recording of ICANN and Human Rights Conference call of Monday 30th March 2015 at 12:00 UTC.

Attendees: Niel Ten Oever, Rafik Dammak, Amr Elsadr, Marilia Marciel, Benjamin Akinmoyeje, Jorge Cancio, Concettina Cassa, Chris Lahatte, Nigel Hickson, Alexandra, Lee Hibbard, Matthew Shears, Monika Zalnieruite, Megan Richards, Jean-Jacques Sahel, Stephania Milan, Avri Doria

mp3: https://icann.box.com/shared/static/nzq5dx4exy6lrw8iy2wy66s8sp2brjtd.mp3

Chat Transcript:

  Maryam Bakoshi:Dear all, welcome to the ICANN and Human Rights Call on  Monday, 30th March 2015
  Benjamin Akinmoyeje:Hello Maryam
  Maryam Bakoshi:Dear all, please kindly state your name and organization in the chat windon for record purposes
  Maryam Bakoshi:*window
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:Tentative agenda is here:
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:1. Introductions
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:2. Discussion or objective and scope of the CCWP
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:3. Discussion of potential research topics
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:4. Update on related work in other constituencies and workstreams
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:5. Outreach
  jorge cancio GAC-Switzerland:Hi all, I'm Jorge Cancio, GAC-Rep for Switzerland
  Chris LaHatte:good morning/evening
  nigel hickson:Good afternoon from Geneva
  HR:good afternoon from Brussels - I will unfortunately have to leave about 14:15 - apologies
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:Just to make sure everyone has the text of the CCWP draft charter:https://etherpad.mozilla.org/icannhrdraft
  rafik:how is HR?
  matthew shears:hello
  Marilia Maciel:here until the window of the plane closes
  Marilia Maciel:no sound though
  HR:I am also here - Megan Richards (European Commission)  - my name comes up as HR - I guesss the signin rather than name
  Amr Elsadr:Hi Megan..., if you like, you can edit your info using the menu at the top-right of the AC window.
  jorge cancio GAC-Switzerland:the content of the chat just disappeared...
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:https://etherpad.mozilla.org/icannhrdraft
  jorge cancio GAC-Switzerland:thanks
  rafik:Hi Megan, you are welcome :)
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:https://etherpad.mozilla.org/icannhrdraft
  Amr Elsadr:Archives of the email list are here: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/cc-humanrights/
  Alexandra:Hi everyone, in listening only mode unfortunately
  Amr Elsadr:This AC room is audio enabled, so you can use it to speak without dialling into the conference.
  matthew shears:Is there a ICANN WP template?
  matthew shears:when we were doing the Charter for the CCWG Accountbaility there was a template - granted it is a WG not WP but just wondered
  Amr Elsadr:Great. Thanks.
  Amr Elsadr:Bringing in/recruiting the expertise would be fantastic.
  jorge cancio GAC-Switzerland:As information under 4: GAC agreed in Singapore to form a working group on human rights and international law
  jorge cancio GAC-Switzerland:It is now being constituted, with a large number of interested GAC members, and with the work being lead by Peru
  Amr Elsadr:@Jorge: That's wonderful. Looking fwd to seeing what this WG comes up with. Thanks.
  matthew shears:i think it will be important to ensure linkages betwen the WP and the WG - maybe it should be written into the charter
  Amr Elsadr:I see this now in the text on the etherpad, which answers my earlier question: To propose procedures and mechanisms with the aim of producingassessments on if and how policies and procedures under developedand/or being implemented may impact on human rights.
  Monika Zalnieriute:I am here, I can hear everything, but I am not sure I can speak.
  Monika Zalnieriute:Do You hear me?
  Amr Elsadr:@Monika: Click on the phone icon on the top left of the screen.
  matthew shears:I like the idea of looking at HR in the broader framing of CSR - it might be easier for the SOs and ACs to understand (and be open to)
  Maryam Bakoshi:@Monika, please give me your number and I will dial out to you
  Monika Zalnieriute:Ok, I have turned my mic,  it should work,
  Monika Zalnieriute:aha, ok, my phone no +370 6 28 52 809
  Maryam Bakoshi:Dialling out to you now
  Maryam Bakoshi:Yes we can
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:Yes we can
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:go ahead
  Monika Zalnieriute:Ok, so do I speak now?
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:Yes, pls go ahead
  Niels ten Oever - Article19:We still don't hear you Monika
  Monika Zalnieriute:Cool, I hear everything, and I think I agree with Niels
  matthew shears:aree Niels - we should focus where we add value and focus - for for example on CSR
  Monika Zalnieriute:I see its pretty much clear that we should focus most of our attention on CSR,
  Alexandra:It might be useful to look at the Global Network Initiative experience in HR audit
  Amr Elsadr:@Monika: I'm not entirely convinced that CSR should be the focus. The real need of HR consideration in ICANN is on how the policies affect domain name holders. This is done using the governance mechanisms via the contracts between ICANN and the registries and registrars, as well as the contracts between the registrars and the registrants.
  Amr Elsadr:I'm not sayin that CSR should be excluded, but it shouldn't dominate the focus of the group.
  Avri Doria:aplogies for being late.  i thought it was later.
  matthew shears:business responsibility to respect HR: http://www.ihrb.org/pdf/state-of-play/State-of-Play-Full-Report.pdf
  nigel hickson:Assume Lee can talk on COE work?
  matthew shears:@ Amr - understand your point re CSR - but I guess my feeling is that using that approach as an umbrella may make the issue for palatable
  Amr Elsadr:@Matt: Looks interesting. Will have to put a couple of hours aside to go through it. :)
  matthew shears:has this been circulated more broadly Lee?
  jorge cancio GAC-Switzerland:will a short summary of this call be circulated?
  matthew shears:I think it will be very important going forward that this WP has the fullest visibility of what is going on vis-a-vis ICANN and HR bpoth inside and outsdide ICANN
  Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.
  matthew shears:thanks Niels all
  Chris LaHatte:thanks
  Maryam Bakoshi:Thank you all
  jorge cancio GAC-Switzerland:thanks
  Anri vd Spuy:Thanks.

Many thanks,
Maryam Bakoshi
Secretariat ­ NCSG, NCUC, NPOC
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

Email:  maryam.bakoshi at icann.org<mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
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