[cc-humanrights] Last call for CCWP charter

[Patrik Fältström]

> On 6 apr 2015, at 17:53, Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org> wrote:
> 
> I have been talking to several CSR people and reviewing the text Patrik
> proposed. For easy editing and a clear overview I put the several
> versions here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/icannhr

Thanks!

> By adding Corporate Social Responsibility to the work of this working
> party we're expanding the scope far beyond human rights. Initially we
> have tried to make the scope smaller by only having a look at first
> generation human rights, and predominantly freedom of expression and the
> right to privacy and the impact ICANN has on them.
> CSR opens up the discussion on: The impact of a company on economic,
> environmental and social impacts caused by its everyday activities.
> These are a lot of different things, far beyond what was initially
> envisioned. Ranging from CO2 emisions, travel policy, transparency,
> renumeration, supply chain disclosure,
> I've been having a look at the best practices in CSR-land, and it is
> quite huge: https://www.globalreporting.org/

Yes, CSR is a VERY broad topic. One must scope it.

> If we manage to produce a report provuides an analysis and
> recommendations based on the IHRB report [0] that Patrik mentioned is,
> would for me be a perfect outcome of our work, but I am curious if
> people think we should go further.
> 
> Patrik mentioned that he wanted to include topics of labor in this
> work, but that seems covered by the UN Guiding Principles on Business
> and Human Rights and are also addressed in the IHRB report.

No, I said we COULD do that.

I agree we must be scoped.

> So I just want to make sure that our scope is wide enough to include
> everything we want to do, but narrow enough to keep it manageable.
> 
> Currently I am not 100% sure if we are discussing semantics, or issues
> we want to tackle, it seems we are discussing the difference between
> things that mean the same to me:

To me semantics.

> 1. CCWP on ICANN and Human Rights
> 2. CCWP on ICANNs Corporate Responsibility to Respect Human Rights
> 3. CCWP on ICANN CSR issues related to Human Rights
> 
> But I think that this has a far wider scope:
> 
> 4. CCWP on Corporate Social Responsibility for ICANN
> 
> And this email made me want to check with you Patrik if we're talking
> about the same thing:
> 
> On 04/05/2015 04:42 PM, Patrik Fältström wrote:
> > I just do not want this to be a CCWG on Human Rights. It should be
> > on ICANN CSR issues related to Human Rights.
> >
> > And once again, if I am alone in being sensitive on this kind of
> > wording, let me know. Then I rest my case ;-)
> 
> Looking forward to discuss!

So it is [3] above I am asking for, of your four alternatives.

But I understand the view of Bill that it might be viewed immediately as "ICANN as the corporation", so I can go with a name of the CCWG that is as [1].

I will have a look at the document you produced online Niels.

Once again, I am sensitive to "Human Rights" as I very strongly see Human Rights are agreements between states on what they MUST do and what they MUST NEVER do. Everyone else is acting in that context. For example by doing activities that forces States to change their behavior. Or by acting in a specific way just because States do misbehave (but one have to do things there anyway).

It might have been teachers I have had that hammered this possibly too drastic view into my brain...but there you are.

And still, I can view myself be in the minority here.

   Patrik

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