[cc-humanrights] draft agenda public session
Niels ten Oever
niels at article19.org
Tue Sep 29 17:19:27 UTC 2015
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Changed Avri to NCSG (from GNSO). Any other suggestions? Are we
missing important groups?
Draft Agenda CCWP HR public session v3
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Welcome and Introductions (Niels & Rafik) - 5 minutes
Update on GAC WG on Human Rights and International Law (GAC WG
co-chairs / Lee Hibbard) - 5 minutes
Update on CCWG WP4 on human rights (Leon Sanchez) - 5 minutes
Presentation chart (Marilia) - 10 minutes
Presentation new report on Human Rights Impact assessments and CSR
reporting (Motoko) - 20 minutes
Comments by Leon Sanchez (Chair CCWG WP4)
Comments by Greg Shatan (IPC)
Comments by Patrik Falstrom (SSAC)
Comments by Avri Doria (NCSG)
Comments by James Bladel (RrSG)
Comments by Wolfgang Kleinwaechter (board)
Q&A
Summary (Marilia)
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Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever
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On 09/29/2015 07:17 PM, Tatiana Tropina wrote:
> Hi Niels hi all Entering the conversation too late probably - was
> travelling :) Great idea, Michele! It does look better now. I like
> discussions much more than praising chorus. And we will have to
> address all the opponents' arguments anyway so better to be ready
> to face them. Cheers Tanya
>
> On 29 Sep 2015 19:08, "Niels ten Oever" <niels at article19.org
> <mailto:niels at article19.org>> wrote:
>
> OK, so will be exchanging Olivier with James Bladel. Does this
> look better to you all?
>
> Draft Agenda CCWP HR public session v2
> ======================================
>
> Welcome and Introductions (Niels & Rafik) - 5 minutes
>
> Update on GAC WG on Human Rights and International Law (GAC WG
> co-chairs / Lee Hibbard) - 5 minutes
>
> Update on CCWG WP4 on human rights (Leon Sanchez) - 5 minutes
>
> Presentation chart (Marilia) - 10 minutes
>
> Presentation new report on Human Rights Impact assessments and CSR
> reporting (Motoko) - 20 minutes
>
> Comments by Leon Sanchez (Chair CCWG WP4)
>
> Comments by Greg Shatan (IPC)
>
> Comments by Patrik Falstrom (SSAC)
>
> Comments by Avri Doria (GNSO)
>
> Comments by James Bladel (RrSG)
>
> Comments by Wolfgang Kleinwaechter (board)
>
> Q&A
>
> Summary (Marilia)
>
> Best,
>
> Niels
>
>
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>
> Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
>
> Article 19 www.article19.org <http://www.article19.org>
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> On 09/29/2015 06:56 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>> Avri
>
>> Exactly
>
>> There’s little to be gained by having a bunch of people who all
>> agree with each other.
>
>> Regards
>
>> Michele
>
>> -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation &
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>> On 29/09/2015 17:53, "cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of
>> Avri Doria" <cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of
>> avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The more I think about it the more I like having the panel
>>> full of those who have issues with it.
>>>
>>> Maybe ask James Bladel. He voiced concerns in the CCWG
>>> meeting.
>>>
>>> avri
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29-Sep-15 12:48, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>>>> Avri
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, but my concerns are very simple.
>>>>
>>>> I think you’ll find other contracted parties and people like
>>>> Greg would be in a much better position to have a robust
>>>> discussion on this
>>>>
>>>> M
>>>>
>>>> -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation
>>>> & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/
>>>> http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://ceo.hosting/ Intl. +353
>>>> (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
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>>>> ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet
>>>> Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On 29/09/2015 17:28, "Avri Doria" <avri at acm.org
> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I also believe that Wolfgang, like many of the Board is
>>>>> nervous about ICANN committing itself to HR in a bylaw.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it might be good to get someone from the Contracted
>>>>> parties on the panel. Like you, Michele.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can write a blog about how terrible I think it is that
>>>>> ICANN cannot even make a simple commitment to respect HR
>>>>> within its mission, and can argue from the floor.
>>>>>
>>>>> avri
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29-Sep-15 08:38, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>>>>>> Avri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a European registrar I’m very conscious that ICANN is
>>>>>> forcing a bunch of things via policy + contract that
>>>>>> are, essentially, illegal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I’d be very wary of how this kind of commitment was
>>>>>> made. Simply committing to something and assuming it’ll
>>>>>> be sorted out later has not proven to be a particularly
>>>>>> sane strategy within the ICANN space..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So while I have no concrete objections to HR, I would
>>>>>> want clarity on a variety of things before pushing hard
>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michele
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting,
>>>>>> Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/
>>>>>> http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://ceo.hosting/ Intl.
>>>>>> +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
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>>>>>> ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet
>>>>>> Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
>>>>>> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29/09/2015 13:35, "cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org> on
>>>>>> behalf of Avri Doria" <cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org> on
>>>>>> behalf of avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, I did not know you were in the group of people who
>>>>>>> did not support a HR bylaw.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We all have questions about how a commitment is
>>>>>>> implemented, but i think there is a divison between
>>>>>>> those who belive in the committment first and working
>>>>>>> it out as we go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And those who want to know exactly what the future
>>>>>>> holds before making a committment to HR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I differentiate between
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I support hr, but ..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I support hr. I do think we need to discuss how we
>>>>>>> are going to implement this"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> avri
>>>>>
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