[cc-humanrights] draft agenda public session
Niels ten Oever
niels at article19.org
Wed Sep 30 16:00:28 UTC 2015
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Hi Rafik,
Thanks! This looks really good to me, and then I will invite all the
aforementioned people to respond.
Cheers,
Niels
Niels ten Oever
Head of Digital
Article 19
www.article19.org
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On 09/30/2015 02:11 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> can we may set back a little here and check the proposed agenda.
>
> my understanding is the session will give an opportunity to
> present updates: what was done within the CCWP with the ,under
> ongoing consultation, HRIA document and also 2 possibles
> deliverables aimed for mapping and indicate where it is possible to
> intervene. Those kind of material will help for more awareness and
> education within the community, in addition all the reports
> published lately by Article19.
>
> On other hand, with regard to CCWG we are going to get updates from
> WP4. this doesn't mean that we are going to make decision about
> what is happening in WP4. as CCWP we can give input and participate
> in that discussion within the CCWG. About the HR commitment in
> bylaw, I don't want to see that as for and against, we are not
> setting a oxford style debate here and we are not going to achieve
> so much like that. We have also the CCWP working session where we
> can plan on how to interact and liaise with WP4 if needed.
>
> about adding names, I would think we should avoid long list of
> speaking heads which leaves little space for real discussion and
> interaction, with more entrenched point of views. so maybe we can
> have the updates first and the open the floor for discussion. We
> would invite "pros" and "cons" instead to join as discussants so we
> can make the Q&A phase quite interactive. I acknowledge that is not
> necessarily optimal neither thrilling for the invitees but at least
> we can aim to have a structured discussion leading to some useful
> output.
>
> what about this shorten version:
>
> Welcome and Introductions (Niels & Rafik) - 5 minutes
>
> Update on GAC WG on Human Rights and International Law (GAC WG
> co-chairs / Lee Hibbard) - 5 minutes
>
> Update on CCWG WP4 on human rights (Leon Sanchez) - 5
> minutes
>
> Presentation chart (Marilia) - 10 minutes
>
> Presentation new report on Human Rights Impact assessments and CSR
> reporting (Motoko) - 20 minutes
>
> Q&A: first questions by invited discussants
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2015-09-30 3:43 GMT+09:00 Michele Neylon - Blacknight
> <michele at blacknight.com <mailto:michele at blacknight.com>>:
>
> Implementation cannot be in a vacuum Unfortunately with the best
> intentions in the world it gets overlooked..
>
>
> Mr. Michele Neylon Blacknight http://www.blacknight.irish Sent from
> a small shiny object so excuse fat fingers!
>
>> On 29 Sep 2015, at 19:20, Stephanie Perrin
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> concerns about implementation is a likely comment. But lets not
> drop Avri, lets just broaden the discussion to include some who
> will argue that piece.
>> SP
>>
>>> On 2015-09-29 7:59, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: Avri
>>>
>>> Nobody is going to say they don’t support human rights :)
>>>
>>> What they might say is that they have concerns about how this
>>> is
> handled …
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Michele
>>>
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>>>> On 29/09/2015 12:57, "cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Avri Doria"
> <cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of
> avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> good point. perhaps replace me with someone from the GNSO who
>>>> does not
> support human
>>>> rights?
>>>>
>>>> avri
>>>>
>>>>> On 29-Sep-15 05:06, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>>>>> Niels > > Just a thought, but wouldn’t it be beneficial to
>>>>> have
> someone who
>>>> wasn’t on your side? > I know there has been pushback on the
>>>> “human rights” issue with respect to CCWG / IANA etc., and
>>>> having
> someone from
>>>> that side of the house might be more beneficial. > > Regards
>>>> > >
> Michele
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>>>> > >
>>>>
>>>> On 29/09/2015 00:16, "cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of
>>>> Niels ten Oever" <cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of
>>>> niels at article19.org <mailto:niels at article19.org>> wrote: >
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find underneath my proposal for the draft agenda.
>>>>> Looking forward to hear your ideas and criticisms. I was
>>>>> thinking of asking more people to comment, but I'm afraid
>>>>> the number is already quite high. Looking forward to hear
>>>>> what you think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Niels
>>>>>
>>>>> PS I did not confirm anyone yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Draft Agenda CCWP HR public session
>>>>> ===================================
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome and Introductions (Niels & Rafik) - 5 minutes
>>>>>
>>>>> Update on GAC WG on Human Rights and International Law (GAC
>>>>> WG co-chairs / Lee Hibbard) - 5 minutes
>>>>>
>>>>> Update on CCWG WP4 on human rights (Leon Sanchez) - 5
>>>>> minutes
>>>>>
>>>>> Presentation chart (Marilia) - 10 minutes
>>>>>
>>>>> Presentation new report on Human Rights Impact assessments
>>>>> and CSR reporting (Motoko) - 20 minutes
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments by Leon Sanchez (Chair CCWG WP4)
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments by Greg Shatan (IPC)
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments by Patrik Falstrom (SSAC)
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments by Avri Doria (GNSO)
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments by Olivier Crepin-Leblond (ALAC)
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments by Wolfgang Kleinwaechter (board)
>>>>>
>>>>> Q&A
>>>>>
>>>>> Summary (Marilia)
>>>>>
>>>>>
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