[cc-humanrights] Suggested workflow for trial HRIAs

McAuley, David dmcauley at Verisign.com
Mon Nov 12 14:12:47 UTC 2018

I agree with James and Michele. Not only does the EPDP have its own pressures right now but it is, at bottom, an exercise in ensuring compliance with a human-rights-driven regulation, the GDPR. An HRIA in this case seems unneeded and could potentially delay finalization of the EPDP recommendations beyond the May 2019 deadline mandated by the Temp Spec.

Both the RPM PDP and the Sub Pro PDP could directly impact HR considerations in how/whether a TLD can be applied for/operated and how certain rights in that respect can be protected. Both seem well-suited for a human rights analysis of some sort.

But if this group wishes to make such a suggestion, I urge that it consider the matter quickly. If an HRIA is to be suggested for a PDP, in my opinion it should be floated earlier rather than later as a matter of fairness to the WGs and as a matter of ensuring that the HRIA have a fair chance to help shape the final product.

Best regards,


David McAuley

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Verisign Inc.


From: cc-humanrights <cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org> On Behalf Of Collin Kurre
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 6:53 AM
To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com>
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [cc-humanrights] Suggested workflow for trial HRIAs

The EPDP is indeed an appealing target for a trial HRIA because of its short timeline and unique structure. Doing so wouldn’t necessarily add to the workload of EPDP team members.

However demoing a controversial PDP in our first go does carry the risk of starting this project off on the wrong foot. This is also a good opportunity to research the human rights impacts of other processes (and demonstrate that the ICANN ecosystem doesn’t revolve around WHOIS/GDPR).

Of the other two suggestions, which would be a more appropriate starting point — RPMs or Sub Pros? If the latter, which track?


Collin Kurre


   On Nov 12, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:


   The ePDP is under enough pressure without adding to their workload


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   From: cc-humanrights <cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org<mailto:cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
   Date: Monday 12 November 2018 at 11:23
   To: Akriti Bopanna <akriti at cis-india.org<mailto:akriti at cis-india.org>>
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   Subject: Re: [cc-humanrights] Suggested workflow for trial HRIAs

   I would highly caution against using the epdp for this, the epdp is already under heat stress and deadline pressure. Adding an important but non necessary complication to their work will be received very negatively in my option and will taint the perception of the HRIAs across ICANN before we have even had a start to build a solid reputation.

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   On 12 Nov 2018, at 10:49, Akriti Bopanna <akriti at cis-india.org<mailto:akriti at cis-india.org>> wrote:

      Hi everyone,

      As Collin mentioned, it would be to good to get something started while we await the final approval and implementation of WS2.

      I think the EPDP would be a good place to start for 2 reasons. Firstly the unique nature of it. There will be more opportunity in the future to do HRIA's for other PDP's but since EPDP's are rarer, it would be good to get a HRIA for it done while we can?

      Secondly, since Collin has had the opportunity and will probably continue to have the chance to participate in the EPDP, it will be easier for us to catch up and have more insight into the process? Feel free to disagree and let me know if that doesn't make sense though!



      On 09/11/2018 20:25, Collin Kurre wrote:

         Dear colleagues,

         Below is a suggested workflow synthesizing ideas about how to get the ball rolling on HRIAs in the ICANN community while helping newcomers become more involved in policy development processes.

         As approval of WS2 is drawing ever closer, it would be great to go ahead and get started on the first trial HRIA. This way we can have at least one trial under our belt when the Human Rights Bylaw kicks into effect. (Find background resources on the CCWP-HR website<https://icannhumanrights.net/documents/>.)

         What do you think? All feedback welcome.

         Warm regards,

         Collin Kurre


         Suggested Workflow for Trial ICANN Policy HRIA

         1.     Identify PDP for trial. Suggestions received: RPMs, Subsequent Procedures (specific work tracks?), EPDP. Which should be prioritized?
         2.     Gather and review resources on select PDP. This will be an important step for members who aren’t currently active in the target PDP. Shared folders and communication channels will be established to promote knowledge exchange.
         3.     HRIA Team attends at least 3 meetings of the PDP to get a feel for the group’s status and key players. Newcomers will also have the opportunity to shadow veterans and observe the PDP process in action.
         4.     Jointly determine the best approach for carrying out the assessment based on shared experiences in the target PDP. Example methodologies: direct participation, interviews, mailing list reviews, desk research, or any combination thereof. We can dedicate one of our CCWP-HR calls to this discussion.
         5.     Complete and publish assessment with the methodology clearly explained in an annex.
         6.     Repeat! Building on lessons learned in the first trial.

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