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    I am reluctant to turn Monday into pure circus.&nbsp; Nothing wrong with
    Monday afternoon.&nbsp; We will have substance....<br>
    cheers Steph<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2014-12-05, 9:39, Marilia Maciel
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            <div>Yes, I meant Wednesday. Thanks for the correction
              Niels. Although Olivier mentioned that Monday afternoon is
              not blocked..<br>
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            Considering the meeting will always clash with something
            else, a 3-hour session could be strategic to allow people to
            join us at some moment. We could even explicitly divide the
            session in "part 1" and "part 2", so people that could come
            (although late) do not feel they missed too much and still
            feel encouraged to attend. Of course, this is besides the
            fact that we do have a lot of substantive topics to discuss.
            I understand Rafik&acute;s point, but maybe we should try to push
            for the three hours.<br>
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          <div>Rafik, do you suggest we wait to book the room, so we
            coordinate with other sessions being scheduled? Isn&acute;t it
            dangerous in terms of securing a room for us? I think it is
            better to have it scheduled as soon as possible. If
            something substantial changes on the agenda we re-evaluate.<br>
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          Best,<br>
          <br>
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        Mar&iacute;lia</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Rafik
          Dammak <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
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            <div dir="ltr">Hi ,
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              <div>I think we should see the different SO/AC &nbsp;sessions (
                we have also the CCWG on IG session too!) and find some
                possible time slot.&nbsp;</div>
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              <div>3 hours is long and not necessarily easy to secure
                room (while we could do that in London for a different
                topic , not sure we can reiterate that).</div>
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                    <div class="gmail_quote">2014-12-05 22:59 GMT+09:00
                      Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                        <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hello
                          all,<br>
                          <br>
                          it is possible to program for Monday
                          afternoon. They frown upon it because that
                          takes people out of the main room but the ALAC
                          and other WGs have staged meetings on Monday
                          afternoon with little interference. One of the
                          problems is that by killing Fridays the week
                          has become shorter and with the Thursday
                          circus Thursday is now dead. With Monday
                          risking being filled by the circus too we have
                          Tuesday which is impossible due to
                          Constituency day. But guess what, I'm now told
                          some parts of Constituency day might happen on
                          Wednesday morning too. So Wednesday afternoon?
                          Oh now, that's GNSO wrap up.<br>
                          &lt;sigh&gt;<br>
                          <br>
                          Olivier<span><br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            On 05/12/2014 14:41, William Drake wrote:<br>
                            <span style="white-space:pre-wrap">&gt; you
                              can&#8217;t program on Monday, they block it out
                              for official stuff they think is more
                              important.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; I&#8217;d ask for Wednesday morning.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; BD<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt;&gt; On Dec 5, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Niels
                              ten Oever <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:niels@article19.org"
                                target="_blank">&lt;niels@article19.org&gt;</a>
                              wrote:<br>
                              &gt;&gt;</span><br>
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                              <blockquote type="cite">Hi Rafik,<br>
                                <br>
                                You're right. Tuesday is constituency
                                day, so that is ruled out. Can<br>
                                we do Monday afternoon 13:30 - 16:30 ?<br>
                                <br>
                                I also found in the archives we agreed
                                earlier on a three hour<br>
                                meeting, so let's go for that.<br>
                                <br>
                                Best,<br>
                                <br>
                                Niels<br>
                                <br>
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                                On 12/05/2014 02:17 PM, Rafik Dammak
                                wrote:<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Niels,<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; Wednesday afternoon has the
                                GNSO council public meeting and we had<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; such conflict last time.<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; Rafik<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; 2014-12-05 22:07 GMT+09:00
                                Niels ten Oever &lt;<a
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                                <br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:niels@article19.org"
                                  target="_blank">&lt;mailto:niels@article19.org&gt;</a>&gt;:<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; On 12/04/2014 06:24 PM,
                                Rafik wrote:<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Niels,<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Rafik,<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I am not senior within
                                ICANN<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; Well, at least more senior
                                than me ;)<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; but I guess I can help
                                for this.<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; That's excellent. I think
                                we agreed on a session on Wednesday <br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; afternoon, as per Bills
                                proposal. I think two hours would
                                suffice. <br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; Three hours seems a but
                                like a an overkill (even though I know
                                we <br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; could easily fill it).<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; What do you people think?<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; Best,<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt; Niels<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Rafik<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Le 5 Dec 2014 &agrave; 02:20,
                                Niels ten Oever &lt;<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:niels@article19.org"
                                  target="_blank">niels@article19.org</a><br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:niels@article19.org"
                                  target="_blank">&lt;mailto:niels@article19.org&gt;</a>&gt;
                                a &eacute;crit :<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi all,<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It seems there is
                                consensus about the text for the session
                                at <br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ICANN52, or does anyone
                                have any issues with this text? All <br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; comments are very
                                welcome.<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; _________<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Human right and ICANN -
                                continuing the conversation<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; There is a growing
                                recognition in parts of the community
                                that<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; some of ICANN&#8217;s
                                policies and other actions may have
                                implications<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; for human rights like
                                freedom of expression and the right to<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; privacy. While ICANN is
                                not the place to negotiate over such<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; rights, it would be
                                advisable on political and other grounds
                                to<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; assess whether our work
                                is fully consistent with internationally<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; agreed human rights
                                laws and policies, and to identify
                                possible<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; methods for addressing
                                any incompatibilities.<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To date, these issues
                                have been discussed on a case by case<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; basis. This
                                cross-community workshop will consider
                                options for<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; starting a process that
                                could address them in a more systemic<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; manner.<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ________<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; What would be the
                                process to request the room? I would be
                                happy<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to send some emails,
                                but given the experiences during last
                                ICANN <br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; meeting it might be
                                more effective if someone more senior in
                                the <br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ICANN hierarchy would
                                send it. Any takers?<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks in advance,<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Niels<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
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                                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
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                              &gt; International Fellow &amp; Lecturer<br>
                              &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Media Change &amp; Innovation
                              Division, IPMZ<br>
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            <div><b><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Mar&iacute;lia
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