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I am reluctant to turn Monday into pure circus. Nothing wrong with
Monday afternoon. We will have substance....<br>
cheers Steph<br>
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<div>Yes, I meant Wednesday. Thanks for the correction
Niels. Although Olivier mentioned that Monday afternoon is
not blocked..<br>
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Considering the meeting will always clash with something
else, a 3-hour session could be strategic to allow people to
join us at some moment. We could even explicitly divide the
session in "part 1" and "part 2", so people that could come
(although late) do not feel they missed too much and still
feel encouraged to attend. Of course, this is besides the
fact that we do have a lot of substantive topics to discuss.
I understand Rafik´s point, but maybe we should try to push
for the three hours.<br>
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<div>Rafik, do you suggest we wait to book the room, so we
coordinate with other sessions being scheduled? Isn´t it
dangerous in terms of securing a room for us? I think it is
better to have it scheduled as soon as possible. If
something substantial changes on the agenda we re-evaluate.<br>
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<div>I think we should see the different SO/AC sessions (
we have also the CCWG on IG session too!) and find some
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<div>3 hours is long and not necessarily easy to secure
room (while we could do that in London for a different
topic , not sure we can reiterate that).</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hello
all,<br>
<br>
it is possible to program for Monday
afternoon. They frown upon it because that
takes people out of the main room but the ALAC
and other WGs have staged meetings on Monday
afternoon with little interference. One of the
problems is that by killing Fridays the week
has become shorter and with the Thursday
circus Thursday is now dead. With Monday
risking being filled by the circus too we have
Tuesday which is impossible due to
Constituency day. But guess what, I'm now told
some parts of Constituency day might happen on
Wednesday morning too. So Wednesday afternoon?
Oh now, that's GNSO wrap up.<br>
<sigh><br>
<br>
Olivier<span><br>
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On 05/12/2014 14:41, William Drake wrote:<br>
<span style="white-space:pre-wrap">> you
can’t program on Monday, they block it out
for official stuff they think is more
important.<br>
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> I’d ask for Wednesday morning.<br>
><br>
> BD<br>
><br>
>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Niels
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You're right. Tuesday is constituency
day, so that is ruled out. Can<br>
we do Monday afternoon 13:30 - 16:30 ?<br>
<br>
I also found in the archives we agreed
earlier on a three hour<br>
meeting, so let's go for that.<br>
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Best,<br>
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Niels<br>
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On 12/05/2014 02:17 PM, Rafik Dammak
wrote:<br>
>>> Hi Niels,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Wednesday afternoon has the
GNSO council public meeting and we had<br>
>>> such conflict last time.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Rafik<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2014-12-05 22:07 GMT+09:00
Niels ten Oever <<a
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href="mailto:niels@article19.org"
target="_blank">niels@article19.org</a>
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>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:niels@article19.org"
target="_blank"><mailto:niels@article19.org></a>>:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 12/04/2014 06:24 PM,
Rafik wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi Niels,<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi Rafik,<br>
>>><br>
>>>> I am not senior within
ICANN<br>
>>><br>
>>> Well, at least more senior
than me ;)<br>
>>><br>
>>>> but I guess I can help
for this.<br>
>>><br>
>>> That's excellent. I think
we agreed on a session on Wednesday <br>
>>> afternoon, as per Bills
proposal. I think two hours would
suffice. <br>
>>> Three hours seems a but
like a an overkill (even though I know
we <br>
>>> could easily fill it).<br>
>>><br>
>>> What do you people think?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Best,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Niels<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Rafik<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> Le 5 Dec 2014 à 02:20,
Niels ten Oever <<a
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target="_blank">niels@article19.org</a><br>
>>>> <a
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href="mailto:niels@article19.org"
target="_blank"><mailto:niels@article19.org></a>>
a écrit :<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Hi all,<br>
>>><br>
>>>> It seems there is
consensus about the text for the session
at <br>
>>>> ICANN52, or does anyone
have any issues with this text? All <br>
>>>> comments are very
welcome.<br>
>>><br>
>>>> _________<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Human right and ICANN -
continuing the conversation<br>
>>><br>
>>>> There is a growing
recognition in parts of the community
that<br>
>>>> some of ICANN’s
policies and other actions may have
implications<br>
>>>> for human rights like
freedom of expression and the right to<br>
>>>> privacy. While ICANN is
not the place to negotiate over such<br>
>>>> rights, it would be
advisable on political and other grounds
to<br>
>>>> assess whether our work
is fully consistent with internationally<br>
>>>> agreed human rights
laws and policies, and to identify
possible<br>
>>>> methods for addressing
any incompatibilities.<br>
>>><br>
>>>> To date, these issues
have been discussed on a case by case<br>
>>>> basis. This
cross-community workshop will consider
options for<br>
>>>> starting a process that
could address them in a more systemic<br>
>>>> manner.<br>
>>><br>
>>>> ________<br>
>>><br>
>>>> What would be the
process to request the room? I would be
happy<br>
>>>> to send some emails,
but given the experiences during last
ICANN <br>
>>>> meeting it might be
more effective if someone more senior in
the <br>
>>>> ICANN hierarchy would
send it. Any takers?<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Thanks in advance,<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Niels<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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