<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>I think we may move to Wednesday morning at 10:00. the GAC-board meeting is from 8:30 to 9:30.</div><div>We are still discussing about timing for CCWG on IG meeting.</div><div><br></div><div>I also strongly advise for 2 hours session only. what I need as input:</div><div>- session description , title and tentative agenda (which will be online)</div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">• a breakdown of topics to be discussed</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">• a list of speakers/panellists </span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">• an explanation of the session’s goals and expected outcomes</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">• hyperlinks to relevant documentation.</span></div></blockquote><div>- expected number of attendees</div><div>- preferred set-up: u shape, theatre, rounds, board, classroom etc</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div>I will ask of course of for remote participation and adobe connect. I need to submit the request by 15th Dec</div><div>finally, I think that is time to move to more substantive discussion to prepare the session.</div><div><br></div></div></div>
Rafik</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-12-07 9:53 GMT+09:00 Joy Liddicoat <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joy@liddicoatlaw.co.nz" target="_blank">joy@liddicoatlaw.co.nz</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all and thanks for the suggestions as well - Seems Wednesday at 9.30 may<br>
be least worst option ....<br>
Perhaps we should also be willing to consider a slightly shorter session if<br>
that helps with scheduling (eg to reduce to 2 or 2.5 hours)<br>
Joy<br>
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Hi all,<br>
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For your reference, the ICANN51 schedule:<br>
<a href="http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule-full" target="_blank">http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule-full</a><br>
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Monday afternoon is risky because it might overlap with ICANN accountability<br>
discussions, updates on new gTLDs, etc.<br>
<br>
Wednesday morning is risky because of the CCWG on Internet Governance.<br>
But since the latter is from 8:30 - 9:45, if we start at 9:30, we should be<br>
OK with a slow start. Will you keep the same time for Singapore for this<br>
workshop Bill ?<br>
<br>
If so, I'd go for Wednesday morning.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Niels<br>
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Niels ten Oever<br>
Head of Digital<br>
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Article 19<br>
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On 12/05/2014 04:06 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> I meant checking quickly if there are other sessions (e.g. checking<br>
> schedules in previous ICANN meetings or if someone is aware about new<br>
> session) to mitigate risks of clashes, after submission we cannot<br>
> request changes.<br>
><br>
> Rafik<br>
><br>
> 2014-12-05 23:39 GMT+09:00 Marilia Maciel <<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>>>:<br>
><br>
> Yes, I meant Wednesday. Thanks for the correction Niels. Although<br>
> Olivier mentioned that Monday afternoon is not blocked..<br>
><br>
> Considering the meeting will always clash with something else, a<br>
> 3-hour session could be strategic to allow people to join us at some<br>
> moment. We could even explicitly divide the session in "part 1" and<br>
> "part 2", so people that could come (although late) do not feel they<br>
> missed too much and still feel encouraged to attend. Of course, this<br>
> is besides the fact that we do have a lot of substantive topics to<br>
> discuss. I understand Rafik´s point, but maybe we should try to push<br>
> for the three hours.<br>
><br>
> Rafik, do you suggest we wait to book the room, so we coordinate with<br>
> other sessions being scheduled? Isn´t it dangerous in terms of<br>
> securing a room for us? I think it is better to have it scheduled as<br>
> soon as possible. If something substantial changes on the agenda we<br>
> re-evaluate.<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Marília<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi ,<br>
><br>
> I think we should see the different SO/AC sessions ( we have also the<br>
> CCWG on IG session too!) and find some possible time slot.<br>
><br>
> 3 hours is long and not necessarily easy to secure room (while we<br>
> could do that in London for a different topic , not sure we can<br>
> reiterate that).<br>
><br>
> Rafik<br>
><br>
> 2014-12-05 22:59 GMT+09:00 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>>>:<br>
><br>
> Hello all,<br>
><br>
> it is possible to program for Monday afternoon. They frown upon it<br>
> because that takes people out of the main room but the ALAC and other<br>
> WGs have staged meetings on Monday afternoon with little interference.<br>
> One of the problems is that by killing Fridays the week has become<br>
> shorter and with the Thursday circus Thursday is now dead. With Monday<br>
> risking being filled by the circus too we have Tuesday which is<br>
> impossible due to Constituency day. But guess what, I'm now told some<br>
> parts of Constituency day might happen on Wednesday morning too. So<br>
> Wednesday afternoon? Oh now, that's GNSO wrap up. <sigh><br>
><br>
> Olivier<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 05/12/2014 14:41, William Drake wrote:<br>
>> you can’t program on Monday, they block it out for official stuff<br>
>> they think is more important.<br>
>><br>
>> I’d ask for Wednesday morning.<br>
>><br>
>> BD<br>
>><br>
>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Niels ten Oever<<a href="mailto:niels@article19.org">niels@article19.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:niels@article19.org">niels@article19.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>> Hi Rafik,<br>
>><br>
>> You're right. Tuesday is constituency day, so that is ruled out.<br>
>> Can we do Monday afternoon 13:30 - 16:30 ?<br>
>><br>
>> I also found in the archives we agreed earlier on a three hour<br>
>> meeting, so let's go for that.<br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>><br>
>> Niels<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Niels ten Oever Head of Digital<br>
>><br>
>> Article 19 <a href="http://www.article19.org" target="_blank">www.article19.org</a> <<a href="http://www.article19.org" target="_blank">http://www.article19.org</a>><br>
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>> On 12/05/2014 02:17 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br>
>>>>> Hi Niels,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Wednesday afternoon has the GNSO council public meeting and we had<br>
>>>>> such conflict last time.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Rafik<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> 2014-12-05 22:07 GMT+09:00 Niels ten Oever<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:niels@article19.org">niels@article19.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:niels@article19.org">niels@article19.org</a>><br>
>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:niels@article19.org">niels@article19.org</a>><br>
>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:niels@article19.org">niels@article19.org</a>>>:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On 12/04/2014 06:24 PM, Rafik wrote:<br>
>>>>>> Hi Niels,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Hi Rafik,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I am not senior within ICANN<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Well, at least more senior than me ;)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> but I guess I can help for this.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> That's excellent. I think we agreed on a session on Wednesday<br>
>>>>> afternoon, as per Bills proposal. I think two hours would<br>
>> suffice.<br>
>>>>> Three hours seems a but like a an overkill (even though I know we<br>
>>>>> could easily fill it).<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> What do you people think?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Best,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Niels<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Rafik<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Le 5 Dec 2014 à 02:20, Niels ten Oever <<a href="mailto:niels@article19.org">niels@article19.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:niels@article19.org">niels@article19.org</a>><br>
>>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:niels@article19.org">niels@article19.org</a>><br>
>>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:niels@article19.org">niels@article19.org</a>>> a<br>
>> écrit :<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Hi all,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> It seems there is consensus about the text for the session at<br>
>>>>>> ICANN52, or does anyone have any issues with this text? All<br>
>>>>>> comments are very welcome.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> _________<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Human right and ICANN - continuing the conversation<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> There is a growing recognition in parts of the community that<br>
>>>>>> some of ICANN’s policies and other actions may have implications<br>
>>>>>> for human rights like freedom of expression and the right to<br>
>>>>>> privacy. While ICANN is not the place to negotiate over such<br>
>>>>>> rights, it would be advisable on political and other grounds to<br>
>>>>>> assess whether our work is fully consistent with internationally<br>
>>>>>> agreed human rights laws and policies, and to identify possible<br>
>>>>>> methods for addressing any incompatibilities.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> To date, these issues have been discussed on a case by case<br>
>>>>>> basis. This cross-community workshop will consider options for<br>
>>>>>> starting a process that could address them in a more systemic<br>
>>>>>> manner.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> ________<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> What would be the process to request the room? I would be happy<br>
>>>>>> to send some emails, but given the experiences during last ICANN<br>
>>>>>> meeting it might be more effective if someone more senior in the<br>
>>>>>> ICANN hierarchy would send it.<br>
>>>>>> Any takers?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Niels<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
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