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<div>Please find below recording and transcript of the ICANN and Human Rights call of 17th Aug 2015 at 13:00 UTC.</div>
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<div>This, and other recordings can be found at: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Meeting+Notes">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Meeting+Notes</a></div>
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<div> <b>mp3:</b> <a href="http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=zZ8xDDIU4PY795Cika7Nmy-2FNugFnAwo9az5qWXNwufTCjhZ-2FbuQGpmeVAaDVrwIY3NojZQIECxKvz1jr5x7WGA0cNfU8AC-2BYvcRqDCjKJl0-3D_FiroU9WATfGGQpGIbRb8NkCMVsuIUf2Oa7q-2B6QPGPd0P9ACvn3Y7Ub4pcSRvAWpR4eEu9NGmxpUPeW0JVeMqcxBkC1ajwg6Efba9JnrHuvaGkytYht-2BcRzRzRdO6GDE510ktfNBk9SsN-2BN0dEU5DFF3QEQ5iwAN6-2B-2BxBtC6uhITOohlogAogeBf50rZYVN91efCNDdqf2xJtlfeMsjjuK-2F1nXsaOFTK8dLFCFdURpiFPTzBX61kfxINn-2BqtNepqyAXDPYKipfEISxxL9uMgBQfReVLWRK-2Fu2pV4ShrFkbzfGy5lhcbwCxsfieMMWpfdFvfMS9oRxKdMnUTOAy7qxIMnVcRRXFWBjSlpFtY6UZvnCquYI-2FqMjcsd1mhHcXCUwPwf-2B6hYnMUXgFNeHsibInVSyqONb3NhgIMBuv53lPyquB87NPiUR6XW68O-2FKUXdpAXAjruIoUpu6vR8zD1yFhHxXSsLsorpRmLD9qseQ1IPyjtUt48zWxBszic-2FJd5As">https://icann.box.com/shared/static/yncsgv6z2e213mp7j1pu37z1jcinkh3d.mp3</a></div>
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<div><b>AC Chat: </b></div>
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<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Dear all, welcome to the CCWP on ICANN & HR call on Monday, 17th Aug 2015 at 13:00 UTC</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Megan Richards & Sara Bockey have joined the meeting</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Rafik Dammak has joined</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Niels has joined</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> matthew shears:hello</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Matthew SHears and marilia Marciel have joined</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Tatiana Tropina has joined</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Marilia Maciel:Hello all!</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:much better !</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Marilia Maciel:Sure.</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Tatiana Tropina:Hi everyone!</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Marilia Maciel:Yes</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Marilia Maciel:Maybe we can see the agenda on screen?</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Niels ten Oever - Article19:1. Short evaluation ICANN2. Works as agreed.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;">
</span>1. chart<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>2. legal<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;">
</span>3. administrivia3. CCWG accountability & human rights4. other issues</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Marilia Maciel:Perfect</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Marilia Maciel:Lost audio, Niels</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:we have lost your voice Niels !</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Alexandra, Avri Doria, Stephanie Perrin & Farzaneh have joined</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Niles will rejoin soon</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> matthew shears:seem to have audio issues</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:We are calling him now</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Marilia Maciel:Ok, thanks, Maryam</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:We are working to get Niels back on the line</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Niels ten Oever - Article19:yyou lost me?</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Yes</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Niels ten Oever - Article19:aii</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Marilia Maciel:Yes, no audio</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:The operator has been trying to call you</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Niels ten Oever - Article19:can you call me again?</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Niels ten Oever - Article19:I just hung up now</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Niels ten Oever - Article19:pls call me again</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Niels ten Oever - Article19:where did you lose me?</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> matthew shears:I am here (I think)</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:at the beginning !!</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Tatiana Tropina:can you hear me?</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Niels ten Oever - Article19:No we cannot hear you</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:No</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Tatiana Tropina:too bad</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Tatiana do you have a number we can sial out to</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:*dial</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Tatiana Tropina:+4917635423791</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Amr Elsadr has joined</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:@Tatiana - calling you now</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Marilia Maciel:Vacations for you guys, in Europe I think :)</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Yes Tatiana is on the line</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Marilia Maciel:Avri? Matt? :)</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> matthew shears:I think that the accountabillity proposal is also asking for input from commenters on the issue of human rights in the bylaws in parallel</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:this is what the report seems to say but perhaps this is evolving: •<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;">
</span>Work plan for Work Stream 2 to: o<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;">
</span>Enhance diversity and the culture of transparency within ICANNo<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;">
</span>Further address concerns about community accountability. The 2nd Draft Report includes a recommendation for regular structural reviews of SOs and ACs to assess their accountability towards their participants as well as towards the stakeholders they are
designed to represent.o<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>
Elaborate on a Commitment to human rights in the ICANN Bylaws.•<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;">
</span>Details on an implementation plan for Work Stream 1, including a Bylaws drafting process.</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:sorry - wrong cut and paste !! apologies</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> matthew shears:in terms of strategy it will be important for a number of diverse entities to input on this in the publoc consultation - the comment revirew process does not weight the inputs so more inputs
on issues of concernsuch as HR is important</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Avri Doria:i plan to put in my own comment on the issue.</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Avri Doria:both HR related and other.</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> matthew shears:+ 1</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> matthew shears:I think we have to leave a lot of this to WS2. If we start to get into the detail the bylaw may get very long and cumbersome</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Tatiana Tropina:I think it is better to avoid detailing bylaws in order to avoid long legal debates which can get us to nowhere and delay the changes we want</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> matthew shears:yep</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Tatiana Tropina:*again I don't know how far this discussion went before, may be I am just repeating what has already been discussed many times</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:perhaps its a problem with the mike - in a nutshell I agree with marilia's comment</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Hi Megan, please could you provide your number for dial out</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:@Matt: RE: HRs in WS2, that sounds logical to me, so +1. For now, some form of commitment from the CCWG to include HR issues in WS2 wouldn't be such a bad thing though.</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:My number is +322 2962443 but marilia said exactly what I was going to say -</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Avri Doria:The Corporation shall operate for the benefit of the Internet community as a whole, carrying out its activities in conformity with relevant principles of international law and applicable international
conventions and local law and, to the extent appropriate and consistent with these Articles and its Bylaws, through open and transparent processes that enable competition and open entry in Internet-related markets. To this effect, the Corporation shall cooperate
as appropriate with relevant international organizations</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> matthew shears:shame we can't just asterisk the bylaw above after the word conventions and add if need be UDHR and ICCPR</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Tatiana Tropina:@Matthew, it's articles of incorporation I think :)</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> matthew shears:thanks</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:the articles of incorporation cover all</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Avri Doria:... coverl all that are relevant ... applicable ... and to the extent apprpproprote consistent with the bylaws.</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Tatiana Tropina:Yes, in a general way</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:the Articles take precedence over the bylaws - the bylaws can limit the application or clarify the specific provisions</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Tatiana Tropina:+1 to Megan. I see any changes made to bylaws as clarification of this general commitment</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:ICANN has agreed to apply the applicable and relevant provisions by virtue of the provisions of its ARticles of incorporation - public international law and its application
is a separate issue and not what we should be discussing here</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> matthew shears:agree with simple phrasing for bylaws</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Avri Doria:those are not my concerns, as much as the concerns of tothers. i support the most general language. </div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Tatiana Tropina:I actually don't see any way to make other than simple wording of bylaws</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:am responding in the chat then</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:we should ensure that the work is not duplicating that done in GAC HR wg and other fora</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> matthew shears:good point - have the GAC discussions evolved since the meeting in BA?</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:not yet but would be a pity if the various groups were to either duplicate or heavens forbid contradict that of each other</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Avri Doria:Isn't the GAC having a simlar definitional issues as the WP4 is having</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Megan Richards, European Commission:thanks and apologies for no voice :-)</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> matthew shears:thanks Niels, all</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Tatiana Tropina:thanks !</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Niels ten Oever - Article19:Thanks all!</div>
<div style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium;"> Maryam Bakoshi:Thank you all</div>
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