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    <p>Hi,</p>
    <p>1) I'm not sure what would be the alternative that would be the
      pumpkin that the temp spec turns into</p>
    <p>2) I think there should be a strong message that the temp spec be
      made the permanent spec if the ePDP is unable to produce anything.<br>
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    <p>-Mallory<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/17/20 11:13 AM, Michele Neylon -
      Blacknight wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Just
            as an FYI the temp spec is literally that – temporary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There’s
            no way to extend it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Mr
              Michele Neylon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Blacknight
              Solutions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Hosting,
              Colocation & Domains<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black"><a
                href="https://www.blacknight.com/"
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Intl.
              +353 (0) 59  9183072<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Direct
              Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Personal
              blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://michele.blog/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Some
              thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://ceo.hosting/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Blacknight
              Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business
              Park,Sleaty<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:-webkit-standard;color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93
              X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">cc-humanrights
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cc-humanrights-bounces@icann.org"><cc-humanrights-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf of
              Mallory Knodel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mknodel@cdt.org"><mknodel@cdt.org></a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Thursday 17 September 2020 at 16:12<br>
              <b>To: </b>Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hello@ekenyanito.com"><hello@ekenyanito.com></a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cc-humanrights@icann.org">"cc-humanrights@icann.org"</a>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cc-humanrights@icann.org"><cc-humanrights@icann.org></a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [cc-humanrights] Human Rights Updates
              and Potential next steps<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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        <p>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>As for the ePDP report, my hot take is that it makes lots of
          concessions and at the same time kicks some very important
          decisions down the road to be determined by a variety of
          implementers. From a pro-privacy perspective it offers nothing
          stronger than what we currently have with the temporary
          specification. I think the strategy to protect human rights on
          the question of whois access should simply reject the report
          completely and filibuster as long as possible because the temp
          spec is just great the way it is.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>-Mallory<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 9/17/20 10:39 AM, Ephraim Percy
            Kenyanito wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Hello
              CCWP-HR members, </span>
            <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I
              hope you are all healthy and doing well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><b><u><span style="font-family:"Times New
                  Roman",serif">ICANN69 session</span></u></b><span
              style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">:
              The NCSG (through CCWP-HR) and ALAC have had a session
              accepted with the session confirmed for Tuesday 13 October
              2020 from 12:00-13:30 UTC (14:00-15:30 CEST).</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p><span style="font-family:"Times New
                Roman",serif">The session will explore further work
                on the SO/ AC Human Rights Impact Assessment Tool that
                we had discussed in June at the ICANN68 Meeting (we
                shall share more details as the final agenda firms up in
                the coming days).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <p><b><u><span style="font-family:"Times New
                  Roman",serif">HRIA Tool</span></u></b><span
              style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">:
              Austin and I wanted to thank you so much for your efforts
              in the refining of the SO/ AC HRIA tool especially since
              the ICANN 68 Meeting which is available <a
href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yuJuDXh_M9dvVhQWsH1pYS2MEpl-I2dDeSrWLy6rOwM/edit#gid=853107611"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                here</a>: <a
href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yuJuDXh_M9dvVhQWsH1pYS2MEpl-I2dDeSrWLy6rOwM/edit#gid=853107611"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yuJuDXh_M9dvVhQWsH1pYS2MEpl-I2dDeSrWLy6rOwM/edit#gid=853107611</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Please
              feel free to look through and make any edits that will
              make the tool more useful.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">We
              hope that the tool will be useful to all the SO/ACs in
              their implementation of Human Rights and shall be reaching
              out to the SO/ACs that had expressed interest in doing a
              HRIA asap.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><b><u><span style="font-family:"Times New
                  Roman",serif">EPDP Report:</span></u></b><span
              style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> We
              are sure you have seen the
              <a
href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/epdp-phase-2-team-publishes-final-report"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                EPDP report</a> and are aware that it is coming up for
              GNSO Council vote in the next week. Here is
              <a
href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/epdp-phase-2-team-publishes-final-report"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                the report</a> and it would be great to hear thoughts or
              ideas from the group especially on what key positions
              ought to be for us to protect human rights.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p style="margin-bottom:0cm"><b><u><span
                  style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">New
                  Subsequent Procedures Draft Final Report:
                </span></u></b><span style="font-family:"Times New
              Roman",serif">There is a <a
href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-draft-final-report-2020-08-20-en"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                public comment</a> opportunity for the report and with
              the due date being 30 September 2020. Here is
              <a
href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-draft-final-report-2020-08-20-en"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                the report</a> and it would be great to hear thoughts or
              ideas from the group especially on what key positions
              ought to be for us to protect human rights.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p style="margin-bottom:0cm"><span style="font-family:Times">Best
              regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p style="margin-bottom:0cm"><span style="font-family:Times">Ephraim
              and Austin.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>Mallory Knodel<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>CTO, Center for Democracy and Technology<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780<o:p></o:p></pre>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Mallory Knodel
CTO, Center for Democracy and Technology
gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780</pre>
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