<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><u class="">Re: #18 Stress of GAC Consensus advice</u><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dear Steve,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">With the hindsight of the call, your example reminds me of the .wine and .vin case. so it goes beyond a theoretical test.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class="">a) I think the case you are discussing is a question of the different layers of representation (all under accountability of course)</div></blockquote><div class=""><ul class=""><ul class=""><li class="">The GAC has representation at the Board level</li><li class="">The GAC has more or less representation at the NomCom level, depending on recent proposal</li><li class="">The GAC has earlier engagement at the policy level and late advice at the Board level</li><li class="">The GAC has in general the same weight as all SO/ACs, or doesn’t it?</li></ul></ul></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><div class="">b) the we are talking about there internal rules</div></div></blockquote><div class=""><ul class="MailOutline"><ul class=""><li class="">Their bylaws about <b class="">consensus</b> decision making</li></ul></ul><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">In the .wine and .vin case there was no consensus.</div></div><div class="">I have problems in using such specific cases of stress cases under general “accountability” title and try to solve it just by changes in the bylaws. I think it needs a little bit more structural analysis <b class="">if <u class="">all SO/ACs have the same weight (consensus based or not)</u> at all levels,in all processes, at all times or not</b>. I f we just start limiting how to change internal issues in the GAC we might face larger inconsistencies further down the road.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Carlos Raul Gutierrez</div><div class="">GNSO Council</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Steve DelBianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" class="">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<font face="Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Second, I added application of stress test #18 in Category IV (see page 3). This is a stress test regarding GAC Advice:</font></div>
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<div class="">18. Governments in ICANN’s Government Advisory Committee (GAC) amend their operating procedures to change from consensus decisions to majority voting for advice to ICANN’s board. </div>
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<div class="">Consequence: Under current bylaws, ICANN must consider and respond to GAC advice, even if that advice were not supported by consensus. A majority of governments could thereby approve GAC advice that restricted free online expression, for example.</div>
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<div class="">Current ICANN Bylaws (Section XI) give due deference to GAC advice, including a requirement to try and find “a mutually acceptable solution.”</div>
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<div class="">This is required for any GAC advice, not just for GAC consensus advice.</div>
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<div class="">Today, GAC adopts formal advice according to its Operating Principle 47: “consensus is understood to mean the practice of adopting decisions by general agreement in the absence of any formal objection.” But the GAC may at any time change its procedures
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<div class="">One proposed measure is to give the community standing to veto a board decision. If ICANN board acquiesced to GAC advice that was not supported by GAC consensus, the community veto could enable reversal of that decision.</div>
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<div class="">Another proposed measure is to amend ICANN bylaws (Section XI 1j) to give due deference only to GAC consensus advice, and add a definition of “consensus”.</div>
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<div class="">The GAC could change its Operating Principle 47 to use majority voting for formal GAC advice, but ICANN bylaws would require due deference only to advice that had GAC consensus. </div>
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