<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">There is no authority for removing the community veto proposal at this stage. I'm not sure how the stress tests group is proposing to eliminate proposals like this. It seems to be an over-reach of this group - this sub-group is not a gate-keeper to shut-down proposals that show to have no problems in operation. The memos coming back from the legal advisors all say vetos are possible and probably desirable in some fashion.<div><br></div><div>Robin<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Apr 8, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Steve DelBianco wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div>Per our discussion today’s stress test WP call, we want to inform the rest of CCWG about this. Here’s a draft for your consideration:</div>
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<div>When ST-WP applies the stress tests to proposed mechanisms, we look at all proposed measures that are under active consideration in the CCWG. (Those are the measures cited in the right column of each stress test). </div>
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<div>When the CCWG and CWG package their proposals for public comment, the ST-WP can then re-apply the stress tests to what is actually proposed.</div>
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<div>Until then, the ST-WP is monitoring discussions in WP1 and WP2 and wanted to flag two proposed measures that have implications for stress testing. </div>
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<div>First, we note that the ‘Community Veto’ measure first proposed in Singapore seems not to be under active consideration in WP1, and is unlikely to make the cut for our first public comment document. </div>
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<div>As initially proposed, a community veto would enable a supermajority of the community representatives to veto a board decision, putting it back in the hands of the board. At the Sunday Istanbul meeting, a sub-team proposed limiting the community veto
only to a list of specified board decisions. Further discussion revealed reservations about allowing community veto to block decisions of the board without citing standards or principles, and attention turned to enhancing other community challenge powers,
such as Reconsideration and IRP.</div>
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<div>In our latest draft of Applying Stress Tests, we applied a strike-thru to the community veto mechanism in the 8 stress tests that had cited the measure. On today’s call, we concluded that the absence of a community veto would not in itself flip any stress
tests from ‘Adequate’ to ‘Inadequate’, since the reconsideration and IRP measures are available to the community. </div>
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<div>So we are alerting the CCWG to this situation, although we do not believe stress testing reveals that community veto must be further developed as long as other challenge mechanisms are available. </div>
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<div>Second, we note that 6 stress tests anticipated another community power that may also fail to make the cut for first public comment. As explained in the email below from Jonathan Zuck, a proposal from the Frankfurt meeting would allow the community to
force ICANN to implement a previously-approved Review Team Recommendation or consensus policy. Another suggested power would allow the community to force ICANN to respond to formal advice from an Advisory Committee (SSAC, ALAC, GAC, RSSAC).</div>
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<div>We note that several stress tests would likely flip from ’Adequate’ to ‘Inadequate’ if the community lacked any new powers to force ICANN to consider and respond to formal advice from an Advisory Committee. </div>
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<div>It’s possible that WP1 could address this concern by developing a power for the community to force ICANN board to acknowledge and respond to AC advice, since that board response could trigger community challenge mechanisms such as Reconsideration or IRP.
This possibility requires some advice from legal experts, as described in Jonathan’s note below. </div>
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<div>In conclusion, we believe that CCWG WP1 could adopt the ATRT2 recommendation for a bylaws change along these lines:</div>
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9.1. ICANN Bylaws Article XI should be amended to include the following language to mandate Board Response to Advisory Committee Formal Advice: <i>The ICANN Board will respond in a timely manner to formal advice from all Advisory Committees, explaining what
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Jonathan Zuck<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 9:05 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability4@icann.org">ccwg-accountability4@icann.org</a>"<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>[ST-WP] Spurring Board Action<br>
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<i>inaction</i>. You might recall that Alan Greenberg originally brought up the notion of "compelling the board to take action" and there are several of the existing stress tests that highlight the need for that capability on the part of the community. Specifically, </div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">ST 11: “force ICANN to implement a recommendation arising from an AOC review, namely SSR"</div>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">ST 17: "force ICANN to respond to recommendations from advisory committees such as SSAC."</div>
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</div><div><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">ST 3,4, 20, 22: “force ICANN to implement a consensus policy or recommendation of an AoC review”</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Cheryl brought up the fact that 11 and 17 had piqued the interest of the CWG so we focused on those two. Stress test 11 was inspired by the recent breach at ICANN and the inability of the community to extract information about
the breach. Without the ability to spur action, that stress test would fail.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Stress test 17 was about recommendations that are ignored by the board. One example we have used for some time is on the issue of Name Collisions and certs where a fairly large outcry on the part of the community was required
to spur action a year ago. Another example, near and dear to the ALAC is dotless domains where there was very specific advice from SSAC as well as consensus concern and the board was slow to respond.</span></div><div><br>
</div><div>Avri brought up recommendation 9 of the ATRT with respect to advice which dictates the board respond to advice in a timely manner:</div><div><br>
</div><div>9.1. ICANN Bylaws Article XI should be amended to include the following language to mandate Board Response to Advisory Committee Formal Advice: </div><div><i>The ICANN Board will respond in a timely manner to formal advice from all Advisory Committees, explaining what action it took and the rationale for doing so.</i><br>
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</i></div><div>The question then arose whether a board "response" would be sufficient to trigger the other review mechanisms currently under consideration by WP2 so it was resolved to discuss that with Becky and her team. Perhaps it would be enough to dictate that the
trigger mechanism for a review is a decision or response from the board. If not, we might need revisit a specific community power to induce the board to vote on a recommendation so that the vote can act as a trigger for further review if necessary.</div><div><br>
</div><div>Cheryl, I hope I have sufficiently stressed everyone out with the possibility of board inaction. Feel free to ask questions or raise issues I have forgotten. I'll clip the mp3 for the topic if that's helpful to folks.</div><div>Jonathan</div><div><br>
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