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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The notes, recordings and transcripts for the CCWG ACCT Stress Test WP Meeting #7 - 3 June will be available here:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=53772767">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=53772767</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A copy of the notes and action items may be found below.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">ACTION Items<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue;background:white">ACTION ITEM - Steve to flag that paragraph 439 addresses FIFA scenario.</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue;background:white">ACTION ITEM: Steve to check that Court is not in ST document <o:p></o:p></span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Steve to expand on stress test #13 to underline specificity of using IRP. <o:p></o:p></span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Send draft to STWP list followed by CCWG <o:p></o:p></span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Cancel June 17 call<o:p></o:p></span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Respond to couple additional scenarios Steve is putting forward</span></strong><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue;background:white"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue;background:white"><o:p> </o:p></span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Notes<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Stress Test WP Meeting #7 - 3 June 2015<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">This call is being recorded</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Links</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Public Comment Period - <a href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ccwg-accountability-draft-proposal-2015-05-04-en"><span style="color:#3B73AF">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ccwg-accountability-draft-proposal-2015-05-04-en</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Draft Report - <a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/cwg-accountability-draft-proposal-without-annexes-04may15-en.pdf"><span style="color:#3B73AF">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/cwg-accountability-draft-proposal-without-annexes-04may15-en.pdf</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Chat sessions are being archived and follow the ICANN Expected Standards</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">of Behavior:</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/in-focus/accountability/expected-standards"><span style="color:#3B73AF">http://www.icann.org/en/news/in-focus/accountability/expected-standards</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">NOTES & ACTION ITEMS:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">These high-level notes are designed to help you navigate through content</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">of the call and do not substitute in any way the transcript.</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Public comment is starting to come in: there is a need to articulate additional stress tests: Mathieu, Avri <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Stress test text was sent to Chris Disspain. We reframed it based on dicussion last Wednesday. Two stress tests:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">1) In line with Chris Disspain<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">2) In line with Jonathan Zuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">1) ATRT recommendation does not require PDP, it can be implemented. Scenario where Board rejects implementation. We have a recourse where we can recall Board, we can block budget or strat plan but a change to expenditures does not solve problem. You could go to Court to force ICANN to follow decision. How does the Court get involved in the first scenario? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">2) Board follows community recommendation which is reversed by IRP. IRP has standard of review - it could cancel decision. We have ability to recall Board but we could block next decision. We could go to California Court and enforce the IRP recommendation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">In neither of these cases is the Board involved in interpreting bylaws, it's implementing IRP decision. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Nuances might still need to be discussed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- Underlying concern is that creation of members would give extra standing to go to Court directly and bypass IRP <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- What would Court say if ignore it? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- </span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Becky's slides show that use of IRP can be a binding part of membership with ICANN instead of going directly to Court<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">--> Concerned that we have to keep doing tie-offs to avoid being overly Court driven. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- We need to start ensuing that between BA and Dublin, anyone who flags a stress test should articulate it <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">----- </span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Mathieu's proposed stress test:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">You may think I am obsessed with recent news, but with the recentspotlight on the FIFA scandals, I think we can reasonably expectquestions regarding how our proposed measures would avoid such a situation.</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Have we covered corruption? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">--> p 70 paragraph 439<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Under proposed measure we could force the Board <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">If the Board was involved in the corruption, can remove Directors or entire Board. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">ATRT2 recommendation on serious review about process was ignored. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">The measure reads quite well but would it be efficient? 442 is a weak point in measures. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">--> we can surface 442 information through ATRT3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Existing accountability measures are not adequate if ignored. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM - Steve to flag that paragraph 439 addresses FIFA scenario.</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">----<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">SO would inform members of community that votes were improperly cast (against instructions). That would have impact on vote that just took place. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">--> The association between SO and AC is one of them having legal relationship between them. It's the UA that is member not the SO. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Voting of cross-community WG, members, not clear who would monitor that <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Where Board control AC/SO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">SO/ACs are defined and controlled by Bylaws. Any changes would go through review as part of accountability. The notion of UA is that it is an independent person but an independent actor. If the SO would become UA we would move its Bylaws - <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">--> The UA is bound by ICANN Bylaws <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">There aren't new individuals who would ignore will of AC SO they are representing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- </span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">If it ignores articles or Bylaws we don't have recourse today but with enhanced IRP we do - if Board ignores IRP it can lead to Court and will lead to them complying i.e. following articles of incorporation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- There' is a difference between establishing the court as the underlying authority and establishing the court as the mechanism for redress which we have studiously avoided<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Transparency needed on how votes are being cast. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- </span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Tools need to be applied hypothetically<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- Spilling the Board wont work if Court not behind you. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">We have created a system for better or worse. The multistakeholder process gets strong through reviews of each other in transparent way. The membership structure has created very to use legal opening so that when things go wrong: do you continue to go through hard process and finding consensus or do you take it to Court? It will change direction of system and makes it far less multistakeholder because it gives us an authority. It acts as a foil to multistakeholder processes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- It is my understanding that there is a great deal of frustration over process that exists because there weren't ways to review. We are creating more mechanisms for redress and more authority. There is less incentive. There is a growing frustration that Board doing something else. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- </span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">You don't get to IRP if you did not participate in public comment process. IRP is key solution, not Court <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Steve to check that Court is not in ST document </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- Concern of whether we need to have a catching net approach to everything <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Agrrieved parties abuse a new membership structure or community powers - We should expand it to suggest that they can't go to Court but rather news IRP. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Steve to expand on stress test #13 to underline specificity of using IRP. </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Send draft to STWP list followed by CCWG </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Cancel June 17 call</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Respond to couple additional scenarios Steve is putting forward</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM - Steve to flag that paragraph 439 addresses FIFA scenario.</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Steve to check that Court is not in ST document </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Steve to expand on stress test #13 to underline specificity of using IRP. </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Send draft to STWP list followed by CCWG </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Cancel June 17 call</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM: Respond to couple additional scenarios Steve is putting forward</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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