[Acct-Legal] April 23-24 intensive work days and outstanding requests

Wed Apr 15 05:04:21 UTC 2015

I suggest we discuss this on tomorrow's Legal Sub Team call.  We don't want
to overlawyer this by having lawyers on every meeting of every subgroup and
CCWG call.  We also don't want to stretch the lawyers too thin, or have
their time taken by being on calls when they need to be working on
deliverables.  I recognize that ne firm or the other could put one person
on each call to monitor and report back to the legal team, which is
somewhat less resource-intense, but we still need to decide what we're
doing.

With regard to the 2 day intensive, I think the agenda should be developed
as soon as possible and then it should be determined which sessions need
legal counsel present and participating.  It may be that some sessions are
not legal in nature, others will have legal taking the lead, and still
others will fall in the middle.  We should identify those ASAP.  We did
this with our 2-day intensive in the CWG, and I think it worked reasonably
well.

Finally, I think the only calls where we expect counsel to be present
unquestioningly are the Legal Subteam calls.

Greg Shatan

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:04 AM, List for the work of CCWG-Accountability
Legal SubTeam <ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org> wrote:

>  Dear León:
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> I wasn’t asking about the regular calls;  I was asking about the *April
> 23-24 intensive work days* (see subject line; I should have put it in the
> body of the message, to be clearer).  Do you want legal counsel from both
> firms on the 12 hours of calls during that 2-day period?
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> As to “our regular” calls, I also need clarification as to what you mean
> by “our”.  As far as I know, there is a Legal Subteam call every Wednesday,
> for which you want counsel on for the second hour.  In addition, I believe
> you’ve said we should be observing the [regular?] CCWG calls on Tuesdays.
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> Are there other CCWG calls we should be attending?  (Does “our” mean just
> Legal Subteam, or CCWG?)
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> And should we also be planning to attend the WP1 calls, which I don’t
> think from seeing the schedule can be described as “regular”?  Jordan has
> asked us, as of this evening, to attend tomorrow’s WP1call for an hour, and
> we will attempt to cover it, although I personally am only available for
> half that time.
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> In short, when you say “our calls,” I’m unsure if that refers to the Legal
> Subteam only, to the full CCWG also, or encompasses various subgroups
> within CCWG, including WP1, that have separate calls.
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> Perhaps I should have figured this out by now, so forgive me if I’m being
> a bit dense.
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> Rosemary
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> *From:* ccwg-accountability5-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> ccwg-accountability5-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *List for the work
> of CCWG-Accountability Legal SubTeam
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:45 PM
> *To:* ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Acct-Legal] April 23-24 intensive work days and
> outstanding requests
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> Dear Rosemary,
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> Thank you for the excellent presentation You, Holly and the rest of the
> team delivered. It was very useful and will, of course, spark new
> discussions and need for clarification in many points that I intend to
> highlight in our call tomorrow.
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> As for the expectation of your participation in our regular calls, as we
> have consistently suggested, we expect you can join the calls on a regular
> basis to be able to follow the discussion of the wider group but not really
> participate actively in each and every call unless requested or when deem
> appropriate.
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> It is, of course, not necessary to have all your team in each call but
> would be useful to have someone from either firm attending so that person
> can in turn update the larger team in the way you have agreed to interact.
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> With regards to reviewing the questions that might be obsolete or with
> lesser priority, you are right. This is something we will need to review
> and provide further guidance to you accordingly.
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> I hope this is useful and talk to you soon.
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> Best regards,
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> León
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>  El 14/04/2015, a las 9:41, List for the work of CCWG-Accountability
> Legal SubTeam <ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org> escribió:
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> Leon:
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> I hope the presentation was helpful.
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> From today’s meeting, I was not sure what involvement you expect from
> legal counsel for these meetings, but my ability to participate will be
> spotty, depending on the exact times of calls, due to pre-existing and
> immovable commitments.  Other members of the A&C team may be available,
> though.  Please share your expectations with respect to your need for our
> presence and nature of participation.
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> In the meantime, I presume legal counsel will coordinate and continue to
> work through the outstanding official requests for counsel input.  I expect
> we should anticipate some new requests coming out of the presentation;
> please prioritize them into our queue.  (We haven’t discussed the
> possibility of cancelling requests, but it seems possible that some
> requests may be obsolete as a result of intervening events, or at least
> their priority may fall.  We will not make that judgment, of course, but
> you might consider it.)
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>
> Rosemary
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