<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I am forwarding this document sent by Jordan. It contains the text version he suggests we discuss and review at our call today.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Inicio del mensaje reenviado:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">De: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Jordan Carter <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" class="">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Asunto: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [Acct-Legal] [CCWG-ACCT] Suggested text for designaor model</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Fecha: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">29 de abril de 2015 8:09:26 GMT-5<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Para: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">"<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org" class="">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org" class="">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>>, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>, "Gregory, Holly" <<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com" class="">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>>, "Rosemary E. Fei" <<a href="mailto:rfei@adlercolvin.com" class="">rfei@adlercolvin.com</a>>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" class="">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>, Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de" class="">rickert@anwaelte.de</a>>, Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr" class="">Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr</a>>, ACCT-Staff <<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org" class="">acct-staff@icann.org</a>>, Izumi Okutani <<a href="mailto:izumi@nic.ad.jp" class="">izumi@nic.ad.jp</a>>, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" class="">robin@ipjustice.org</a>><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi team<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I've attached a Word document that actually has the current draft text for this that I am working on. It is NOT THE SAME as what Robin proposed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have copied lots of you in direct on this email as I don't have posting rights.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Can this be what Counsel review, please?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Sorry to intrude....</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">cheers</div><div class="">Jordan</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 April 2015 at 00:56, List for the work of CCWG-Accountability Legal SubTeam <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=""><p class="">Greg, we agree with your concerns regarding the language highlighted. Please let us know if you would like us to mark up the suggested text. Holly
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">In the "suggested text," which I've pasted in below, I believe the text that I have highlighted and bolded is contrary to the advice we have received from Sidley/Adler and in some cases may inadvertently
misstate that advice. Rather than pick it apart here, I think it makes more sense to discuss this with Sidley/Adler and then bring it back to the full list or the next full meeting if need be.</div>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px" class="">SUGGESTED TEXT</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px" class="">
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<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px" class="">f) Designators are a construct in California law that can achieve some of the powers proposed below -
<b style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)" class="">As ICANN's SOs/ACs struture is consistent with this model,</b> "the selection and removal of Board members" and "the </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px" class="">approval or blocking
of changes to bylaws" can be achieved by changing the ByLaws to define the role of SOs/ACs as designators,<b class=""><font style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)" class=""> without the need to organise unincorporated association.</font><font color="#ffff00" class="">
</font></b>But they cannot reliably deliver other aspects of the set of powers the CCWG believes the community needs,
<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)" class=""><b class="">such as statutory power for full board dismissal</b></span> and ability to have legal standing in court for enforcement of rights, if it is to fully hold ICANN to account.</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px" class="">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px" class="">Crucially, in the view of our counsel,
<b style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)" class="">to have dismissal of the entire board and for legal enforcement of rights in court,
</b><b style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)" class="">would require some additional contractual relationships between SOs/ACs and ICANN, which would also oblige SOs and ACs to establish themselves into unincorporated associations,</b> so some of the perceived simplicity
compared with the membership model isn't actually achievable.</span><br class="">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Izumi Okutani <span dir="ltr" class="">
<<a href="mailto:izumi@nic.ad.jp" target="_blank" class="">izumi@nic.ad.jp</a>></span> wrote:<br class="">
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As mentioned at the # 30 CCWG call, I'd like to suggest text changes for 6.6.1.1 f).<br class="">
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6.6.1.1 The Community Mechanism: Reference<br class="">
Mechanism<br class="">
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CURRENT TEXT<br class="">
Designators are a construct in California law that can achieve some of the powers proposed below ‐<br class="">
mainly those regarding the selection and removal of Board members and the approval or blocking of<br class="">
changes to bylaws. But they cannot reliably deliver other aspects of the set of powers the CCWG<br class="">
believes the community needs, if it is to fully hold ICANN to account. Crucially, in the view of our<br class="">
counsel, this would also oblige the SOs and ACs to organise themselves into unincorporated<br class="">
associations ‐ and so some perceived simplicity compared with the membership model isn’t actually<br class="">
possible.<br class="">
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SUGGESTED TEXT<br class="">
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f) Designators are a construct in California law that can achieve some of the powers proposed below - As ICANN's SOs/ACs struture is consistent with this model, "the selection and removal of Board members" and "the<br class="">
approval or blocking of changes to bylaws" can be achieved by changing the ByLaws to define the role of SOs/ACs as designators, without the need to organise unincorporated association. But they cannot reliably deliver other aspects of the set of powers the
CCWG believes the community needs, such as statutory power for full board dismissal and ability to have legal standing in court for enforcement of rights, if it is to fully hold ICANN to account.<br class="">
Crucially, in the view of our counsel, to have dismissal of the entire board and for legal enforcement of rights in court, would require some additional contractual relationships between SOs/ACs and ICANN, which would also oblige SOs and ACs to establish themselves
into unincorporated associations, so some of the perceived simplicity compared with the membership model isn't actually achievable.<br class="">
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Izumi<br class="">
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