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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rosemary and Holly can both join a call at 8 p.m. eastern. We will have our memo on the UAs out to you in the next few minutes, so suggest we go with the later
time. This will give the CCWG members some time to review as well (hopefully).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Please send an invite for that time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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+1.213.896.6061 (LA direct)<br>
+1.650.565.7561 (PA direct)<br>
+1.323.708.2405 (cell)<br>
<a href="mailto:jhofheimer@sidley.com" title="Click to send email to Hofheimer, Joshua T.">jhofheimer@sidley.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.sidley.com/" title="www.sidley.com">www.sidley.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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AUSTIN LLP</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>List for the work of CCWG-Accountability Legal SubTeam<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 01, 2015 2:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ccwg-accountability5@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Acct-Legal] URGENT: Call tonight 40min<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Sorry, but I am not available to attend a meeting in 40 minutes. I could attend at 8 PM ET (5 PM Pacific).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org">mailto:ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>List for the work of CCWG-Accountability Legal SubTeam<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 01, 2015 2:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Brenda Brewer; stevedelbianco; Thomas Rickert; Cheryl Langdon-Orr<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Acct-Legal] URGENT: Call tonight 40min<br>
<b>Importance:</b> High</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Dear all, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I’m writing on behalf of Leon. Please confirm ASAP if you are available for a call tonight
<u>either</u> in 40min (<b>6PM ET / 22:00 UTC)</b> or at <b>8PM ET / midnight UTC</b>. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">We will need to schedule immediately if the firms and subteam are available.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Grace Abuhamad <<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, May 1, 2015 at 3:08 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>ccwg-accountability5 <<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>stevedelbianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>, Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net">thomas@rickert.net</a>>, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <<a href="mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com">langdonorr@gmail.com</a>>,
Brenda Brewer <<a href="mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org">brenda.brewer@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Need confirmation Re: [Acct-Legal] Fwd: The need for more info on Uninc Assos</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Please confirm whether or not you would like to host this meeting today at 22:00 UTC (6PM Eastern). I will need to know within the hour
in order for us to set up the teleconferencing services. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Thank you, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">ccwg-accountability5 <<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>ccwg-accountability5 <<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, May 1, 2015 at 1:18 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>ccwg-accountability5 <<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>>, ccwg-accountability5 <<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>stevedelbianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>, Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net">thomas@rickert.net</a>>, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <<a href="mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com">langdonorr@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Acct-Legal] Fwd: The need for more info on Uninc Assos</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">If 6pm eastern works on the Legal Sub-Team side please have ICANN staff circulate a calendar invite.
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">
<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org</a> on behalf of List for the work of CCWG-Accountability Legal SubTeam<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 01, 2015 12:10:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:'ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">'ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> stevedelbianco; Thomas Rickert; Cheryl Langdon-Orr<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Acct-Legal] Fwd: The need for more info on Uninc Assos</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Counsel have been working on revisions to the questions posed and answered on April 23 concerning UAs, adding a description of the proposed
use of UAs, responding to Chris Disspain’s question, and attaching a sample of Articles of Association. Sidley has Adler drafts for review as of last night. I think the revised document will be helpful to address the concerns raised in this thread. I suggest
that we get that to you before any call.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I can do a call at 3:30 PM and later today.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">
<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org">mailto:ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>List for the work of CCWG-Accountability Legal SubTeam<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 01, 2015 7:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> stevedelbianco; Thomas Rickert; Cheryl Langdon-Orr<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Acct-Legal] Fwd: The need for more info on Uninc Assos</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">I can participate this afternoon and evening (NY time). The weekend is basically shot. Tomorrow is difficult after 11 am New York time as I have a birthday
brunch with my son followed by a birthday party for my nephew, and travel to/from both. Sunday morning I have an 8:30 am flight to San Diego for the International Trademark Association Annual Meeting.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 8:57 AM, List for the work of CCWG-Accountability Legal SubTeam <<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org" target="_blank">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Thanks David. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">León</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Enviado desde el móvil.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Errores tipográficos son culpa del tecladito y mis dedos gordos. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 01, 2015 8:19 AM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Thomas Rickert; stevedelbianco; Cheryl Langdon-Orr<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Acct-Legal] Fwd: The need for more info on Uninc Assos</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">I believe today would be difficult but would like to hear from others as to which time would also work for them. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Hi Leon, let me check with Rosemary. Are you looking to do this later today? We could potentially do this in the late afternoon. Around 6 eastern. Holly
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<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org" target="_blank">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>; Thomas Rickert; Jordan Carter; Mathieu Weill; Greg Shatan; stevedelbianco; Cheryl Langdon-Orr; Becky Burr<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Acct-Legal] Fwd: The need for more info on Uninc Assos</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">A one hour conference should be enough I think. <br>
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<b><span style="color:black">De:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Jordan Carter <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>><br>
<b>Fecha:</b> 1 de mayo de 2015, 5:36:41 AM CDT<br>
<b>Para:</b> Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>, Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de" target="_blank">rickert@anwaelte.de</a>>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>,
Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>>, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <<a href="mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com" target="_blank">langdonorr@gmail.com</a>>, stevedelbianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>,
ACCT-Staff <<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org" target="_blank">acct-staff@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Asunto:</b> <b>Re: The need for more info on Uninc Assos</b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">It isn't about questions, Mathieu. It is about painting the picture of the reality of how this would actually work.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">I'm starting to think the best way to resolve that would be a half hour teleconference between us and the legal people. To flesh out how the model would work and write it down.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">I support as well. I'll leave interaction with lawyers to leon but we would certainly help by starting to point out the questions the community would need answers to ? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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criticism, because these appeared mutually exclusive. I've come to understand that lack of detail leads to lack of clarity and lack of clarity makes it difficult to grasp the concepts, and concepts that can't quite be grasped appear complex. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Jordan Carter <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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