[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes & action items from today's CCWG-AP meeting

Seun Ojedeji seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
Fri Aug 11 06:18:07 UTC 2017 

Hello,

Xavier is right about reserve that covers operational expenses for minimum
is say 12 month being normal practice. Some even do it for more; some RIRs
have way above 1 year already while others are working towards same.
However ofcourse none can match the fat figures of ICANN budget. ;-)

However I don't think auction proceeds in this context can be referred to
as surplus that can get ploughed back to achieve reserve target set by
ICANN management NOR do I think it is a target/goal that this group should
try to achieve.

I for will suggest that we should consider mechanisms that allow some
community projects that ICANN normally fund in their budget to be eligible,
which if approved (based on the process) may then result to more surpluses
to ICANN and they(Board) can decide to put that to reserve.

Regards

Sent from my mobile
Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Aug 10, 2017 10:26 PM, "Xavier J. Calvez" <xavier.calvez at icann.org>
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> All,
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> I apologize if I did not make the following clear: ICANN’s current policy
> is to have in place a reserve fund equivalent to at minimum 12 months of
> operating expenses. Refer to ICANN’s Investment Policy, see at
> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/investment-policy-2014-07-30-en,
> see the paragraph “Size of Funds”, copied below).
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> “The Reserve Fund shall contain any amounts not contained in the Operating
> Fund. Any surplus funds will be used to build up the Reserve Fund to a
> balance sufficient to cover an emergency requirement. The Reserve Fund is
> expected to reach and maintain a level of funds to maintain a minimum of 12
> months of expected expenditures.“
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> I indicated that this level of a reserve fund is the commonly used in
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> Thank you.
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> Best,
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> Xavier
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> Xavier Calvez
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> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Alan
> Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
> *Date: *Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 1:41 PM
> *To: *Dietmar Stefitz <djs at bemarnet.es>, Michael Karanicolas <
> mkaranicolas at gmail.com>, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes & action items from today's
> CCWG-AP meeting
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> To be clear, I don't think anyone on the call suggested we build up the
> reserve to a 12 or 24 month level of current budget. Xavier said that 1
> year was a typical norm for non-profits, but in my opinion, there is no
> need for that, as in the case of emergency, costs could be ramped down
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> I vaguely recall that the level that we were targeting (before the drain
> from the CCWG-Acct expenses) was something like $80m. So even if we
> contributed enough to get back to that level, it would be perhaps $40m.
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> But the issue in my mind is not how much, but if.
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> Alan
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> At 10/08/2017 03:28 PM, Dietmar Stefitz wrote:
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> Hi Erika and all,
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> I have been very astonished to hear the proposal to use the Auction Money
> in filling up the reserve account of ICANN.
> Filling up for 12 month reserve or 24 month reserve, if we have to take 24
> month, there will not be much left to disburse to other projects.
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> I thought that the call from Xavier has been to explain specially the
> Investment of the fund at this moment, for which I can only congratulate.
> A 1% return on a super save investment is not bad, and it should be made
> like this in the future.
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> I would absolutely be against a filling up of the reserve fund from the
> auction proceeds, at least as a decision from this group.
> Or did I misunderstand something?
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> Dietmar Stefitz
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> *MK> Hi Kavouss, MK> Am I missing something - or are you suggesting that
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> to MK> that effect? MK> If so - I don't see how the CCWG could consider
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> replenished. MK> Decisions about allocation priorities can't really be made
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> *> wrote: >> Dear Erika, Dear All, >> Today during the last 15 mints of
> the call I tried to draw your attention to >> allow me to intervene on the
> views expressed by Alan reading the Reserve >> account. >> If I have well
> understood his statement he wanted that CCWG discuss the >> level of ICANN
> reserve account which was announced by Xavier to be >> equivalent to one
> year budget as objective. As Xavier mentioned this level >> has not been
> reached. >> Alan’s view that CCWG discuss the level of ICANN reserve
> account is outside >> the mandate of CCWG. We may just decide whether or
> not that account be fed >> by using Auction money but decision on the
> appropriate level of the reserve >> account is totally outside or mandate
> as it is a decision to be made by the >> Board and not by this group >>
> Regards >> Kavouss >> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Joke Braeken <*
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> *> >> wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> Please find below the notes and action
> items from today’s CCWG-AP meeting.*
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> *>>> Notes CCWG – AP Meeting 10 August 2017:*
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> *>>> Overview from Xavier Calvez on investment management >>> The
> intention of this presentation is >>> to allow the group to think on the
> issue of investment, >>> to understand ICANN's practice, and to answer any
> questions that might be >>> raised. >>> It helps to inform the discussion
> on the ROI of the fund; It includes an >>> overview of how the auction
> proceeds are currently managed, which might lead >>> to how they might be
> managed in the future. >>> Important to note: >>> only conservative
> investment policies are being used >>> the investment strategy will be
> designed in support of the objectives >>> An overview of some illustrative
> investment scenarios was provided, >>> followed by Q&A. >>> Parameters that
> need to be considered: >>> amount of money >>> horizon >>> level of risk
> (which is not correlated to the horizon) >>> Financial information is
> regularly provided during the quarterly >>> stakeholder calls. >>> (amount
> from latest update - Q3 data of FY17. *>>> https://www.icann.org/
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> *) >>> Reserve Fund: 64 million >>> New gTLD unspent application fees: 128
> million >>> Auction proceeds: 233 million >>> Annual budget of ICANN. FY18
> budget expenses 142 million USD. >>> Regarding replenishing the reserve
> fund: appropriate procedures need to be >>> taken, appropriate approvals
> and decisions need to be in place for it to be >>> legal. >>> This is
> however a moral question as well. The charter does include this >>>
> question: “To what extent (and, if so, how) could ICANN, the Organization
> or >>> a constituent part thereof, be the beneficiary of some of the
> auction funds†*
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> *>>> The group needs to discuss this at a later stage.*
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> *>>> next CCWG-AP meeting is scheduled for Thursday 24 August at 14.00 UTC*
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> *>>> = = = = >>> Action item #1: >>> CCWG to review the slides presented
> by Xavier (published on *>>> https://community.icann.org/
> display/CWGONGAP/2017-08-10+CCWG+New+gTLD+Auction+
> Proceeds+call[community.icann.org]
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> >>> Action item #3: >>> CCWG to review responses to charter question #4 and
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> * ) >>> = = = = >>> Joke Braeken >>> ccNSO Policy Advisor *>>>
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