[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] New gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG

Peter Vergote peter.vergote at dnsbelgium.be
Wed Feb 1 14:23:30 UTC 2017


Elliot,

You are right for sure that we are not going to settle all of this by exchanging a couple of mails ;-)

The mission of the organization I mentioned is not what matters, neither was it any indication of what needs to be done with the funds. I was just giving an example – based upon our experience - that any kind of mechanism used to distribute funds might be more iterative and longer than what could be expected.

Best regs,

Peter

Peter Vergote
Legal & Corp. Affairs Manager
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Op 1/02/17 15:08 heeft elliot noss <enoss at tucows.com> geschreven:

    and I should note, we are not going to settle this in email and I look forward to meeting you all and discussing this face to face in copenhagen.
    
    EN
    
    > On Feb 1, 2017, at 9:08 AM, elliot noss <ENoss at tucows.com> wrote:
    > 
    > "an organization that has as goal to fund projects aimed to bridge the digital divide"
    > 
    > this is not ICANN’s mission. we are dealing with an exception, not the organization’s goal.
    > 
    > EN
    > 
    >> On Feb 1, 2017, at 8:09 AM, Peter Vergote <peter.vergote at dnsbelgium.be> wrote:
    >> 
    >> Hi all,
    >> 
    >> I have to agree with Daniel here.
    >> 
    >> Years ago we donated a lump sum of money (4 mio EUR) to an organization that has as goal to fund projects aimed to bridge the digital divide. The project plan envisaged a number of calls for projects (to receive funding) over a period of 3 years.
    >> 
    >> In reality the program has run for more than 4,5 years because of:
    >> 
    >> - Efficient cost management;
    >> - Lower costs/funding per project than anticipated;
    >> - Lesser inflow of projects than anticipated.
    >> 
    >> Even if the auction proceeds would be a one off, chances are that the distribution of funds will be more iterative and may take many years as explained by Daniel.
    >> 
    >> Best regs,
    >> 
    >> Peter
    >> 
    >> Peter Vergote
    >> Legal & Corp. Affairs Manager
    >> +32 16 29 89 28
    >> +32 474 790096
    >> www.dnsbelgium.be <http://www.dnsbelgium.be/>
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> Op 1/02/17 12:19 heeft ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org namens Daniel Dardailler <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org namens danield at w3.org> geschreven:
    >> 
    >>   I think the one-time factor in terms of funding source (which in itself 
    >>   could turn out to be two-time or more, but not our business) doesn't 
    >>   equate to a one-time approach for disbursing these funds.
    >> 
    >>   E.g. if the agency we're designing goes for bi-annual periodic calls to 
    >>   give away a slice of the overall source funding available at each call, 
    >>   it could easily last for several years, and several years is kind of our 
    >>   own (the Internet/Web technical community) survival horizon, so hardly 
    >>   something we can call a one-time granting project IMO.
    >> 
    >>   At https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/proceeds
    >>   it says that there is 233M in the bank as revenue source.
    >>   If every six months, each call can grant 23M to various projects (we 
    >>   will have to discuss what is a typical project grant, for what 
    >>   duration), then we already have 5 years of activity for this agency.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >>   On 2017-02-01 03:28, Marika Konings wrote:
    >>> Dear Waudo,
    >>> 
    >>> Please note that the charter states that:
    >>> 
    >>> “These proceeds are to be considered as an exceptional, one-time
    >>> source of revenue”.
    >>> 
    >>> However, you may also be interested in the opinion that Alan (co-chair
    >>> of the drafting team that developed the charter) shared in an earlier
    >>> thread:
    >>> 
    >>> _“- There *may* be another round or rounds;_
    >>> 
    >>> _- There *may* be auctions_
    >>> 
    >>> _- Any such auctions *may* have their proceeds designated for uses
    >>> similar to in the first round._
    >>> 
    >>> _ _
    >>> 
    >>> _All of these would be the result of GNSO PDP(s) and Board action, and
    >>> are out of scope for us, regardless of whether we think any or all of
    >>> this would be good (and I am not advocating any of this here). If all
    >>> of those were to come to be, then the process we are developing *may*
    >>> be applicable (again, a decision WAY out of our scope). Nothing that
    >>> we do should REQUIRE that we must start all over again and re-invent
    >>> this in such a situation.”_
    >>> 
    >>> _ _
    >>> 
    >>> Best regards,
    >>> 
    >>> Marika
    >>> 
    >>> FROM: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of waudo
    >>> siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com>
    >>> DATE: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 1:24 AM
    >>> TO: "ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
    >>> SUBJECT: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] New gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG
    >>> 
    >>> Dear all,
    >>> 
    >>> I missed the call but I am impressed by the progress that was made.
    >>> Reading the action points/discussion notes I think our focus now
    >>> should be on expanding and finalizing Item 5 - Workplan. I suggest we
    >>> set a deadline for having the workplan in place and also focus on this
    >>> item on the next call.
    >>> 
    >>> I have a question on scope meantime. Probably those in the group who
    >>> may have participated in the formulation of the charter could be of
    >>> help: Is this exercise confined to the proceeds of the first round
    >>> auctions or do we need to come up with a mechanism encompassing any
    >>> future rollout scenarios (currently not known). The Charter just
    >>> refers to "new gTLDAuction Proceeds".
    >>> 
    >>> Kind Regards,
    >>> 
    >>> Waudo Siganga
    >>> Chair
    >>> The Computer Society of Kenya
    >>> 
    >>> Tel: +254722395900
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