[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Input on Questions

Mon Jan 30 16:44:46 UTC 2017

I respectfully disagree, if we think that we can disburse a quarter of a billion dollars through existing mechanisms then we will quickly learn that we have issues.

-J

From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>>
Date: Monday 30 January 2017 at 17:20
To: Ching Chiao <chiao at brandma.co<mailto:chiao at brandma.co>>
Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Input on Questions

Hello,

I think dedicating a department just to manage the auction proceed seem like an overkill since this won't be a continuous event. A mechanism that allows staff (GSE dept for instance) to this as a project item and manage the funds based on the guidelines developed by this group should just do.

Regards

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On Jan 30, 2017 14:39, "Ching Chiao" <chiao at brandma.co<mailto:chiao at brandma.co>> wrote:
Thank you Alan and Elliot for making these important comments. If we took a step back and ask ICANN -- if they simply keep this extraordinary income (generated from auctions, donations, or other means), what are the financial and cost consequences? Can the money be spend thru existing ICANN mechanism or would it be better to donate , or to spend via a separate ICANN-run entity ?

I think the idea of "sunset" is worthy of discussion -- what are the triggering facts (time, fund size, Board decision) and how the community could benefit from it.

-- Ching
(speaking as individual member)

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:08 AM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:
Fine. as long as it can be overridden should conditions make that desireable.

I'm old enough to have seen lots of things that the math did not predict...

Alan
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Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos.

On January 29, 2017 12:36:12 PM EST, elliot noss <enoss at tucows.com<mailto:enoss at tucows.com>> wrote:

While all that is true, simply given the math, the structure (first round = most desirable) and the market conditions, this round will be singular in size/scale. Using what we do as a model is never precluded, but what is important is to bake sunsetting into any structure we use.

EN

 On Jan 29, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:

 Hi Elliot,

 I tend to agree with you with one caveat. There are a lot of unknowns regarding future gTLDs:

 - There *may* ba another round or rounds;
 - There *may* be auctions
 - Any such auctions *may* have their proceeds designated for uses similar to in the first round.

 All of these would be the result of GNSO PDP(s) and Board action, and are out of scope for us, regardless of whether we think any or all of this would be good (and I am not advocating any of this here).

 If all of those were to come to be, then the process we are developing *may* be applicable (again, a decision WAY out of our scope). Nothing that we do should REQUIRE that we must start all over again and re-invent this in such a situation.

 Alan

 At 29/01/2017 10:25 AM, elliot noss wrote:
 Hello all,

 First, I wish to apologize for not being on the call. It has been a crazy couple of weeks as some of you know.

 Second, I wish to thank Daniel Dardailler for the excellent summary suggestions below. I agree with almost all of them. There is one place where I would like to add a thought for greater clarity.

 One of the two most important things to me in this process is that we recognize that this is a singular opportunity both in scope and in nature. While there may be other opportunities for ICANN to actively dispense money (I personally think a lower budget and annual surplus should be the norm but
 ..), tthey are
 not currently part of the process and I have great fear of institutionalizing an â?oICANN Charityâ? . We are looking at a singular event, which is auction excess in the first round of open applications ever.

 Any structure(s) we create should naturally sunset. This informs both the setup and the rules for disbursement and productively simplifies both.

 I know we will all have lots of opportunity to discuss this, and all other matters but I did want to interject this at this point. Thank you.

 EN

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