[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: Proposed Agenda - new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC

Maureen Hilyard maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
Wed Nov 15 22:33:05 UTC 2017


+1..

Maureen :)

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> i think we can address that, Maureen, in criteria for the Board for the
> new foundation, which is what I favor as the mechanism.
>
>
> We could establish a criteria of at least two from regions, and also from
> sub regions on the board.
>
>
> I am going to go for more than one person on the board to note that we
> need many from the sub regions and regions.
>
>
> For North America, for instance, I am not the person, but someone from the
> indigenous peoples could be.
>
>
> Marilyn
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2017 4:13 PM
> *To:* Marilyn Cade
> *Cc:* Vanda Scartezini; ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: Proposed Agenda - new
> gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC
>
> But Marilyn, can I just add that you would be hard pressed to find a
> representative from from one of the under-served regions that Vanda and I
> are focusing on. within these large organisations, and this is our point.
>
> We need to be able to ensure that there will be someone on this Board who
> will understand the needs and circumstances of our underserved regions.
>
> In the past I have found it difficult to even access an application form
> for these larger foundations, especially those that are US-based because
> most of us in the Pacific for example, don't have any connection with the
> US, so we don't get any priority. It would be imperative that our processes
> are inclusive and user-friendly so that  all levels of society and all
> types of communities can be benefit from these funds, and at the same time
> increase the outreach of ICANN into these regions. .
>
> Therefore in the interests of all, it is important for us to at least be
> able to ask Vanda's question.
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I am just looking into a number of different donor organizations -- and
> for instance, some have board members that are representative of
>
> multiple regions, and some have staff that have experience in working in
> different countries. Sometimes a Foundation is based in a country where the
> primary donor base is located -- e.g. I have found a few that are based in
> their country of origin in Europe, but their focus is funding development
> in developing countries.   That happens also for the US based Foundations,
> if the primary contributor (s) are homed in that country, and they are
> taking advantage of the legal and accountability environment.
>
>
> That to me is not the question we should be asking: we should be asking
> what can we learn from you and your approach to managing the solicitation
> of applications, and the review process; the award process, and the
> monitoring and evaluation process, including required reports on results,
> transparency, criteria for Board members, staff members, etc.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:38 PM
> *To:* Vanda Scartezini
> *Cc:* Marilyn Cade; ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: Proposed Agenda - new
> gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC
>
> +1 Vanda
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Vanda Scartezini <vanda at scartezini.org>
> wrote:
>
> I would like to add to Marilyn’s concerns, that I agree, a question to
> someone to answer: Which are the requisites  for any American Foundation (
> or other From any developed country) to apply resources in developing
> countries projects?
>
> Vanda Scartezini
> Sent from my iPhone
> Sorry for typos
>
> On 15 Nov 2017, at 17:16, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I understand,Erika, however, Gates may be too big to be considered
> representative. Very large donor organizations have very large
>
> overhead, for instance, and I know that will be a strong concern to this
> community.
>
>
> Smaller donor organizations often have less overhead, and can be closer to
> the purpose for which a fund is created.
>
>
> We can develop a set of standard questions and do interviews that not
> everyone can attend, but we can get a set of questions that we ask of each
>
> invited.
>
>
> Marilyn
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Erika Mann <erika at erikamann.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:50 AM
> *To:* Marilyn Cade
> *Cc:* Marika Konings; Seun Ojedeji; ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: Proposed Agenda - new
> gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC
>
> Marilyn -
>
> we have the Gates Foundation on our list and I checked with them if
> they're willing to do this. Not sure if we need therefore another big one?
>
> I agree with you, learning is always good but we need to keep in mind that
> we need to be able to handle these additional conference calls. Let's
> discuss tomorrow how many calls we want to have with different experts and
> how diverse we want these calls with different fund/foundation environments
> to be.
>
> Thanks for all the effort,
> Erika
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Marika,with apologies for delayed suggestions:
>
> I tried to add in a couple of ideas of experts, and found I can't figure
> out how.
>
>
> I nominate Alliance for Affordable Internet [A4AI]; Mastercard Foundation;
> and IEEE Foundation for additional conversations.  I do note that we are
> not including yet some of the major funders, such as Microsoft, MasterCard
> Foundation, IBM, and perhaps a few more that I am not well aware of.
>
>
> I know that I have only been a participant for the last 6 meetings, and
> regret that I missed some earlier discussions so apologize to be bringing
> in new thoughts at this late date.
>
>
> In my view, learning about how funds are dispersed, and evaluated should
> be our priority, not picking a particular model. So, I would
>
> suggest that even if in the future, some of these groups we are learning
> from might apply for Auction fund supported projects,
>
> we need not limit our learning. Also, we must not limit our learning to
> only those who are affiliated with some of us, and I say that gently, but
> sometimes the road ahead is illuminated by a new lamp. :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on
> behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:22 AM
> *To:* Seun Ojedeji
> *Cc:* ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: Proposed Agenda - new
> gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC
>
>
> Seun, the experts that have been identified by the CCWG to date can be
> found here: https://community.icann.org/x/DAnfAw
> <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2FDAnfAw&data=02%7C01%7Cmarilynscade%40hotmail.com%7C276f224728b241b2ed5c08d52c2bee57%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636463489544503941&sdata=H65gTN6C1y8Fp%2BfHRU9zJYBy97ap504BGM781oo1FL4%3D&reserved=0>.
> This also includes an overview of the expertise present amongst CCWG
> members and participants.
>
>
>
> With regards to next milestone, please review the updated timeline that
> was circulated with the agenda. This document also includes the approach
> for dealing with the charter questions that the CCWG is following.
>
>
>
> The survey was intended to see whether a clear preference existed amongst
> the CCWG members and participants for a certain mechanism. However, as
> there does not seem to be a clear preference, the CCWG will need to start
> digging deeper in order to eventually make a determination about the
> preferred mechanism. This was the objective of the exercise in Abu Dhabi:
> identify overarching criteria that are expected to determine what mechanism
> is preferred as well as identify what further information is needed with
> regards to the different mechanisms to be able to value these criteria. For
> example, several commenters noted that cost is an important factor in
> determining which mechanism is preferable, but at this stage, the CCWG has
> very little insight into what the expected cost (e.g. set-up, running) of
> each mechanism may be. Experts, who have been involved in setting up
> similar mechanisms may be in a position to provide guidance to the CCWG in
> this regard. This is of course only one factor that has been identified as
> important.
>
>
>
> If there are suggestions for how to move forward quicker on making this
> determination or other parts of the work that can be done in parallel (the
> leadership may have some suggestions during tomorrow’s meeting), these
> should be shared so that these can be part of the conversation concerning
> the work plan. I do note however that there are still some outstanding
> items from stage 2 that need to be completed and are awaiting CCWG input so
> moving faster will only be possible with the assistance of everyone
> involved.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Marika
>
>
>
> *From: *Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 02:39
> *To: *Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> *Cc: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed Agenda - new gTLD
> Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC
>
>
>
> Hello Marika,
>
>
>
> Please note a tentative apology. That said, could you remind me again who
> the experts are, are those ICANN staff if not are they paid category of
> people within this CCWG?
>
>
>
> To the Chairs, I raised this during the face 2 face and I think I should
> ask again here; can we have an idea of what the next milestone of the group
> is supposed to be and in what timeline are we supposed to achieve that.
>
>
>
> I am saying this because I feel we are getting too bugged down with
> documentations that seems repeatitive to me. We earlier did a survey about
> the options, then we put that on pause and did the session at AbuDhabi
> which produced yet another documentation with new set of questions (which
> are similar to what was already answered through the previous survey)
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Sent from my mobile
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2017 6:03 PM, "Marika Konings" <marika.konings at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction
> Proceeds CCWG meeting which has been scheduled for Thursday 16 November at
> 14.00 UTC. Please make sure to review the documents attached, especially
> the document for item 4. You are encouraged to review the questions
> identified in this document for accuracy (do these accurately reflect the
> comments that were provided during the F2F meeting) as well as whether
> there are any questions missing.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Marika
>
>
>
> *Proposed Agenda – new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on Thursday 16
> November at 14.00 UTC*
>
>
>
>    1. Roll Call
>    2. Welcome / DOI – SOI Updates
>    3. Completing stage 2:
>
>
>    1. Review of updated examples document (see attached)
>       2. Open and Interoperable Internet description (DT expected to
>       circulate latest version prior to meeting)
>       3. Discuss next steps
>
>
>    1. Stage 3 – review and refine questions for experts (see document
>    attached)
>    2. Review and discuss updated work plan (see attached)
>    3. Confirm next steps and time/date for next meeting (Thursday 30
>    November at 14.00 UTC)
>
>
>
> *Marika Konings*
>
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