[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: Proposed Agenda - new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC

Thu Nov 16 05:42:12 UTC 2017

Hello,

As I understand it, our job is mainly to recommend mechanisms to manage
funds, we are not the ones to review applications, neither are we to
approve funding. This is why I feel continuously interviewing
funding/foundation organisation at this stage sounds to me like putting the
chart before the horse.

I personally feel we need to agree on an overall mechanism to use first at
a high level, it is at that time we can then look into how to make that
mechanism work. I don't know what else we will want to hear from external
foundations about the 4 options we currently have[1] on the table as I
don't think they can choose one for us, we have to do that ourselves.
However I believe they can contribute significantly to helping us flesh out
the details that will make the option we choose work well.

Overall, I am open to us learning as much as possible, but I think we
should not loose sight on what we need to do as a task. I will also like to
request that the Chair let us know by mail whenever engagement of external
experts is no longer voluntary.

Regards
1. Infact one may say external foundation organisation may be "somewhat"
conflicted in that because one or 2 if the options apply to them.
Sent from my mobile
Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Nov 15, 2017 3:44 PM, "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Marika,with apologies for delayed suggestions:
>
> I tried to add in a couple of ideas of experts, and found I can't figure
> out how.
>
>
> I nominate Alliance for Affordable Internet [A4AI]; Mastercard Foundation;
> and IEEE Foundation for additional conversations.  I do note that we are
> not including yet some of the major funders, such as Microsoft, MasterCard
> Foundation, IBM, and perhaps a few more that I am not well aware of.
>
>
> I know that I have only been a participant for the last 6 meetings, and
> regret that I missed some earlier discussions so apologize to be bringing
> in new thoughts at this late date.
>
>
> In my view, learning about how funds are dispersed, and evaluated should
> be our priority, not picking a particular model. So, I would
>
> suggest that even if in the future, some of these groups we are learning
> from might apply for Auction fund supported projects,
>
> we need not limit our learning. Also, we must not limit our learning to
> only those who are affiliated with some of us, and I say that gently, but
> sometimes the road ahead is illuminated by a new lamp. :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on
> behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:22 AM
> *To:* Seun Ojedeji
> *Cc:* ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: Proposed Agenda - new
> gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC
>
>
> Seun, the experts that have been identified by the CCWG to date can be
> found here: https://community.icann.org/x/DAnfAw
> <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2FDAnfAw&data=02%7C01%7Cmarilynscade%40hotmail.com%7C276f224728b241b2ed5c08d52c2bee57%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636463489544503941&sdata=H65gTN6C1y8Fp%2BfHRU9zJYBy97ap504BGM781oo1FL4%3D&reserved=0>.
> This also includes an overview of the expertise present amongst CCWG
> members and participants.
>
>
>
> With regards to next milestone, please review the updated timeline that
> was circulated with the agenda. This document also includes the approach
> for dealing with the charter questions that the CCWG is following.
>
>
>
> The survey was intended to see whether a clear preference existed amongst
> the CCWG members and participants for a certain mechanism. However, as
> there does not seem to be a clear preference, the CCWG will need to start
> digging deeper in order to eventually make a determination about the
> preferred mechanism. This was the objective of the exercise in Abu Dhabi:
> identify overarching criteria that are expected to determine what mechanism
> is preferred as well as identify what further information is needed with
> regards to the different mechanisms to be able to value these criteria. For
> example, several commenters noted that cost is an important factor in
> determining which mechanism is preferable, but at this stage, the CCWG has
> very little insight into what the expected cost (e.g. set-up, running) of
> each mechanism may be. Experts, who have been involved in setting up
> similar mechanisms may be in a position to provide guidance to the CCWG in
> this regard. This is of course only one factor that has been identified as
> important.
>
>
>
> If there are suggestions for how to move forward quicker on making this
> determination or other parts of the work that can be done in parallel (the
> leadership may have some suggestions during tomorrow’s meeting), these
> should be shared so that these can be part of the conversation concerning
> the work plan. I do note however that there are still some outstanding
> items from stage 2 that need to be completed and are awaiting CCWG input so
> moving faster will only be possible with the assistance of everyone
> involved.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Marika
>
>
>
> *From: *Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 02:39
> *To: *Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> *Cc: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed Agenda - new gTLD
> Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC
>
>
>
> Hello Marika,
>
>
>
> Please note a tentative apology. That said, could you remind me again who
> the experts are, are those ICANN staff if not are they paid category of
> people within this CCWG?
>
>
>
> To the Chairs, I raised this during the face 2 face and I think I should
> ask again here; can we have an idea of what the next milestone of the group
> is supposed to be and in what timeline are we supposed to achieve that.
>
>
>
> I am saying this because I feel we are getting too bugged down with
> documentations that seems repeatitive to me. We earlier did a survey about
> the options, then we put that on pause and did the session at AbuDhabi
> which produced yet another documentation with new set of questions (which
> are similar to what was already answered through the previous survey)
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Sent from my mobile
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2017 6:03 PM, "Marika Konings" <marika.konings at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction
> Proceeds CCWG meeting which has been scheduled for Thursday 16 November at
> 14.00 UTC. Please make sure to review the documents attached, especially
> the document for item 4. You are encouraged to review the questions
> identified in this document for accuracy (do these accurately reflect the
> comments that were provided during the F2F meeting) as well as whether
> there are any questions missing.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Marika
>
>
>
> *Proposed Agenda – new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on Thursday 16
> November at 14.00 UTC*
>
>
>
>    1. Roll Call
>    2. Welcome / DOI – SOI Updates
>    3. Completing stage 2:
>
>
>    1. Review of updated examples document (see attached)
>       2. Open and Interoperable Internet description (DT expected to
>       circulate latest version prior to meeting)
>       3. Discuss next steps
>
>
>    1. Stage 3 – review and refine questions for experts (see document
>    attached)
>    2. Review and discuss updated work plan (see attached)
>    3. Confirm next steps and time/date for next meeting (Thursday 30
>    November at 14.00 UTC)
>
>
>
> *Marika Konings*
>
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> for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) *
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