[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: Proposed Agenda - new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC

Thu Nov 16 11:32:51 UTC 2017

Apologies Vanda for my auto typo

On Nov 16, 2017 13:31, "Nadira Alaraj" <nadira.araj at gmail.com> wrote:

+1 Banda,

A real concern on this regards, American based organizations mechanism
set-ups that they do follow the jurisdiction of the USA. Even ICANN itself
does comply to such restrictions.

A question to the expert how to make sure that American based organizations
will not be constraint the funding projects in countries that are
sanctioned by America. Such as Sudan and others?

Because in the criteria of funding mechanisms in the document we do have
"Fund allocation
• Ensure that applications can be received and considered from different
communities and parts of the world"

Thank you
Nadira AL-Araj

On Nov 15, 2017 21:37, "Vanda Scartezini" <vanda at scartezini.org> wrote:

I would like to add to Marilyn’s concerns, that I agree, a question to
someone to answer: Which are the requisites  for any American Foundation (
or other From any developed country) to apply resources in developing
countries projects?

Vanda Scartezini
Sent from my iPhone
Sorry for typos

On 15 Nov 2017, at 17:16, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com> wrote:

I understand,Erika, however, Gates may be too big to be considered
representative. Very large donor organizations have very large

overhead, for instance, and I know that will be a strong concern to this
community.

Smaller donor organizations often have less overhead, and can be closer to
the purpose for which a fund is created.

We can develop a set of standard questions and do interviews that not
everyone can attend, but we can get a set of questions that we ask of each

invited.

Marilyn

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*From:* Erika Mann <erika at erikamann.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:50 AM
*To:* Marilyn Cade
*Cc:* Marika Konings; Seun Ojedeji; ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
*Subject:* Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: Proposed Agenda - new gTLD
Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC

Marilyn -

we have the Gates Foundation on our list and I checked with them if they're
willing to do this. Not sure if we need therefore another big one?

I agree with you, learning is always good but we need to keep in mind that
we need to be able to handle these additional conference calls. Let's
discuss tomorrow how many calls we want to have with different experts and
how diverse we want these calls with different fund/foundation environments
to be.

Thanks for all the effort,
Erika

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>
wrote:

Marika,with apologies for delayed suggestions:

I tried to add in a couple of ideas of experts, and found I can't figure
out how.

I nominate Alliance for Affordable Internet [A4AI]; Mastercard Foundation;
and IEEE Foundation for additional conversations.  I do note that we are
not including yet some of the major funders, such as Microsoft, MasterCard
Foundation, IBM, and perhaps a few more that I am not well aware of.

I know that I have only been a participant for the last 6 meetings, and
regret that I missed some earlier discussions so apologize to be bringing
in new thoughts at this late date.

In my view, learning about how funds are dispersed, and evaluated should be
our priority, not picking a particular model. So, I would

suggest that even if in the future, some of these groups we are learning
from might apply for Auction fund supported projects,

we need not limit our learning. Also, we must not limit our learning to
only those who are affiliated with some of us, and I say that gently, but
sometimes the road ahead is illuminated by a new lamp. :-)

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*From:* Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on
behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:22 AM
*To:* Seun Ojedeji
*Cc:* ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
*Subject:* Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: Proposed Agenda - new gTLD
Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC

Seun, the experts that have been identified by the CCWG to date can be
found here: https://community.icann.org/x/DAnfAw
<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2FDAnfAw&data=02%7C01%7Cmarilynscade%40hotmail.com%7C276f224728b241b2ed5c08d52c2bee57%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636463489544503941&sdata=H65gTN6C1y8Fp%2BfHRU9zJYBy97ap504BGM781oo1FL4%3D&reserved=0>.
This also includes an overview of the expertise present amongst CCWG
members and participants.

With regards to next milestone, please review the updated timeline that was
circulated with the agenda. This document also includes the approach for
dealing with the charter questions that the CCWG is following.

The survey was intended to see whether a clear preference existed amongst
the CCWG members and participants for a certain mechanism. However, as
there does not seem to be a clear preference, the CCWG will need to start
digging deeper in order to eventually make a determination about the
preferred mechanism. This was the objective of the exercise in Abu Dhabi:
identify overarching criteria that are expected to determine what mechanism
is preferred as well as identify what further information is needed with
regards to the different mechanisms to be able to value these criteria. For
example, several commenters noted that cost is an important factor in
determining which mechanism is preferable, but at this stage, the CCWG has
very little insight into what the expected cost (e.g. set-up, running) of
each mechanism may be. Experts, who have been involved in setting up
similar mechanisms may be in a position to provide guidance to the CCWG in
this regard. This is of course only one factor that has been identified as
important.

If there are suggestions for how to move forward quicker on making this
determination or other parts of the work that can be done in parallel (the
leadership may have some suggestions during tomorrow’s meeting), these
should be shared so that these can be part of the conversation concerning
the work plan. I do note however that there are still some outstanding
items from stage 2 that need to be completed and are awaiting CCWG input so
moving faster will only be possible with the assistance of everyone
involved.

Best regards,

Marika

*From: *Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
*Date: *Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 02:39
*To: *Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
*Cc: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
*Subject: *[Ext] Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed Agenda - new gTLD
Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC

Hello Marika,

Please note a tentative apology. That said, could you remind me again who
the experts are, are those ICANN staff if not are they paid category of
people within this CCWG?

To the Chairs, I raised this during the face 2 face and I think I should
ask again here; can we have an idea of what the next milestone of the group
is supposed to be and in what timeline are we supposed to achieve that.

I am saying this because I feel we are getting too bugged down with
documentations that seems repeatitive to me. We earlier did a survey about
the options, then we put that on pause and did the session at AbuDhabi
which produced yet another documentation with new set of questions (which
are similar to what was already answered through the previous survey)

Regards

Sent from my mobile
Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Nov 14, 2017 6:03 PM, "Marika Konings" <marika.konings at icann.org> wrote:

Dear All,

Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction
Proceeds CCWG meeting which has been scheduled for Thursday 16 November at
14.00 UTC. Please make sure to review the documents attached, especially
the document for item 4. You are encouraged to review the questions
identified in this document for accuracy (do these accurately reflect the
comments that were provided during the F2F meeting) as well as whether
there are any questions missing.

Thanks,

Marika

*Proposed Agenda – new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on Thursday 16
November at 14.00 UTC*

   1. Roll Call
   2. Welcome / DOI – SOI Updates
   3. Completing stage 2:

   1. Review of updated examples document (see attached)
      2. Open and Interoperable Internet description (DT expected to
      circulate latest version prior to meeting)
      3. Discuss next steps

   1. Stage 3 – review and refine questions for experts (see document
   attached)
   2. Review and discuss updated work plan (see attached)
   3. Confirm next steps and time/date for next meeting (Thursday 30
   November at 14.00 UTC)

*Marika Konings*

*Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation
for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) *

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