[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed Agenda - new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG Meeting - Thursday 8 February at 14.00 UTC

Fri Feb 9 07:39:32 UTC 2018

During the call (and in the response) the Board did appreciate such
exercise of examples. The examples may not be concrete ones but they are
not vague too. I feel that we should continue to proceed but in a more
holistic approach (i.e. from applicant, manager, Board, community...
perspectives ; potential positive and negative impact, etc.) so that we can
record our thoughts and organize them in the final report. Maybe few more
column's should be added in Marika's spreadsheet.

On the other hand -- it is possible to have the mechanism that the WG
defines, say 20 examples, and all are considered ok by the Board. These
will be the project "titles" for worldwide applicants to apply for fund
under these titles (or categories).

Look forward to hearing more comments. Thanks!

Best,

Ching

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sent from my mobile
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
> On Feb 9, 2018 1:08 AM, "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> While I generally support the goal, I was part of the small group working
> on the definition and it is not as simple to define.  ICANN does not
> address content, per se, for example. When I was just joining some wanted
> to use the term "open Internet", and I objected and explained that this was
> a sort of "term of art" that referred to Net Neutrality in the US and
> Europe.
>
>
> That is why we moved to open and interoperable Internet.  Of course, we
> can say:  open and interoperable Internet, consistent with ICANN's mission
> [link to ICANN's mission].
>
>
> SO: This should work, though I do think interoperability is a given in the
> word Internet; if the networks are not interoperable then it isn't the
> Internet.
>
> I agree with the board's observation with regards to indicating examples;
> I personally hope that we will use examples as a reference to inspire our
> thoughts in producing mechanisms that helps achieve our objectives and
> those examples doesn't necessarily have to be included in formal write-ups.
>
> Regards
> PS: Apologies for missing the call
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on
> behalf of Mei Lin Fung <mlf at alum.mit.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 8, 2018 3:37 PM
> *To:* Maureen Hilyard
> *Cc:* ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed Agenda - new gTLD Auction
> Proceeds CCWG Meeting - Thursday 8 February at 14.00 UTC
>
> I agree with Maureen and would re-inforce that the Board's guidance on how
> our important mission of "an interoperable Internet" can be incorporated in
> the letter
>
> In fact, I believe doing this would assist in responding to the important
> point made by Nadira Alaraj - what is the motivation for them to help us
> with their guidance/thoughts/information
>
> An interoperable Internet is important so that all can participate in
> creating and enjoying the benefits of being connected to other people,
> businesses, employers and increase everyone's opportunities for being
> involved in economic, social and leisure activities
>
> Mei Lin Fung
> Organizer, People Centered Internet
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peoplecentered.net%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca0194e6646844b3c62bd08d56f33bdfd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636537190368897107&sdata=7WmltgsulMOwzwPu29vuEJCP7F%2BzGamrz9Jngxkwajo%3D&reserved=0>,
> co-founded with Vint Cerf
> External advisor to the Stanford Center for Population Health Science
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmed.stanford.edu%2Fphs.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca0194e6646844b3c62bd08d56f33bdfd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636537190368897107&sdata=wH2DIEBVn6srQZSba%2FtOwkikiduemWxGQCvvurqYr1Q%3D&reserved=0>
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> (e) mlf at alum.mit.edu ; mlfung at gmail.com <mlfiung at gmail.com>
> (t) meilinfung
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> My 2c following today's call..
>
> The Board letter indicates that they were concerned about how specific our
> examples were in this initial update to the Board of the group's
> activities, but as we are now working towards a more ultimate outcome, our
> next step will no doubt be to look at these examples from a more high level
> about overall recommendations for potential applications, since we have
> just been through the comprehensive process of gathering these specific
> possibilities and discussing their pros and cons. And we have some
> examples of suggestions that were not considered appropriate.
>
>
>
> Although it is still the work of the group to provide its own guidelines
> for the uses of the fund, with reference to the issue of the group's intent
> to support ICANN's vision of an "interoperable internet", I believe we
> would greatly benefit from more concrete advice from the Board about how we
> might be able achieve the intent of this direction, in order to pass on to
> potential applicants about how they might more appropriately use the funds
> to support this important ICANN purpose.
>
>
> Maureen
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:46 PM, 喬敬 <chiao at brandma.co> wrote:
>
> FYI https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/botterm
> an-burr-to-mann-chiao-31jan18-en.pdf
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fen%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2Fcorrespondence%2Fbotterman-burr-to-mann-chiao-31jan18-en.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca0194e6646844b3c62bd08d56f33bdfd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636537190368897107&sdata=C34EdQBm%2B5wqukD0NGTP3MV45fi5K8gd1PTJtb2hwVY%3D&reserved=0>
> ... in case some of you have not read the response. Thanks!
>
> Ching
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:10 AM, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction
> Proceeds CCWG meeting which is scheduled for *Thursday 8 February at
> 14.00 UTC*. Please make sure to review the attached documents and those
> linked below in advance of the meeting.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Marika
>
>
>
> *Proposed Agenda – new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG Meeting – Thursday 8
> February 2018*
>
>
>
> *As a reminder, all conference call details will be circulated on the
> “ntfy” (short for “notify”) mailing list to which members only are
> subscribed in a read-only mode. These details must not be circulated on the
> wider public WG mailing list. To avoid burdening the WG public mailing
> list, please send your apologies ahead of time (apologies after the call
> will no longer be taken into account) and your dial-out requests to the
> GNSO Secretariat: gnso-secs at icann.org <gnso-secs at icann.org> in advance of
> the meeting..*
>
>    1. Roll Call
>    2. Welcome / DOI & SOI updates
>    3. Finalization of letter for external experts (see latest version
>    attached)
>    4. Review of response of Board Liaisons (see
>    https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/64075095/20
>    18-01-31%20Maarten%20Botterman%20and%20Becky%20Burr%20to%20E
>    rika%20Mann%20and%20Ching%20Chiao%20CCWG-AP.pdf?version=1&mo
>    dificationDate=1517839563000&api=v2
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>    and attached)
>    5. Confirm next steps & date for next meeting (Thursday 22 February at
>    14.00 UTC)
>
> *Marika Konings*
>
> *Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation
> for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) *
>
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> On Feb 9, 2018 1:08 AM, "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> While I generally support the goal, I was part of the small group working
> on the definition and it is not as simple to define.  ICANN does not
> address content, per se, for example. When I was just joining some wanted
> to use the term "open Internet", and I objected and explained that this was
> a sort of "term of art" that referred to Net Neutrality in the US and
> Europe.
>
>
> That is why we moved to open and interoperable Internet.  Of course, we
> can say:  open and interoperable Internet, consistent with ICANN's mission
> [link to ICANN's mission].
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on
> behalf of Mei Lin Fung <mlf at alum.mit.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 8, 2018 3:37 PM
> *To:* Maureen Hilyard
> *Cc:* ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed Agenda - new gTLD Auction
> Proceeds CCWG Meeting - Thursday 8 February at 14.00 UTC
>
> I agree with Maureen and would re-inforce that the Board's guidance on how
> our important mission of "an interoperable Internet" can be incorporated in
> the letter
>
> In fact, I believe doing this would assist in responding to the important
> point made by Nadira Alaraj - what is the motivation for them to help us
> with their guidance/thoughts/information
>
> An interoperable Internet is important so that all can participate in
> creating and enjoying the benefits of being connected to other people,
> businesses, employers and increase everyone's opportunities for being
> involved in economic, social and leisure activities
>
> Mei Lin Fung
> Organizer, People Centered Internet
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peoplecentered.net%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca0194e6646844b3c62bd08d56f33bdfd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636537190368897107&sdata=7WmltgsulMOwzwPu29vuEJCP7F%2BzGamrz9Jngxkwajo%3D&reserved=0>,
> co-founded with Vint Cerf
> External advisor to the Stanford Center for Population Health Science
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmed.stanford.edu%2Fphs.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca0194e6646844b3c62bd08d56f33bdfd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636537190368897107&sdata=wH2DIEBVn6srQZSba%2FtOwkikiduemWxGQCvvurqYr1Q%3D&reserved=0>
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> Economic Forum
> Member of the Steering Committee, World Economic Forum, Internet for All
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> Vice Chair, Internet Inclusion, IEEE Internet Initiative
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>
> (e) mlf at alum.mit.edu ; mlfung at gmail.com <mlfiung at gmail.com>
> (t) meilinfung
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> My 2c following today's call..
>
> The Board letter indicates that they were concerned about how specific our
> examples were in this initial update to the Board of the group's
> activities, but as we are now working towards a more ultimate outcome, our
> next step will no doubt be to look at these examples from a more high level
> about overall recommendations for potential applications, since we have
> just been through the comprehensive process of gathering these specific
> possibilities and discussing their pros and cons. And we have some
> examples of suggestions that were not considered appropriate.
>
>
>
> Although it is still the work of the group to provide its own guidelines
> for the uses of the fund, with reference to the issue of the group's intent
> to support ICANN's vision of an "interoperable internet", I believe we
> would greatly benefit from more concrete advice from the Board about how we
> might be able achieve the intent of this direction, in order to pass on to
> potential applicants about how they might more appropriately use the funds
> to support this important ICANN purpose.
>
>
> Maureen
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:46 PM, 喬敬 <chiao at brandma.co> wrote:
>
> FYI https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/botterm
> an-burr-to-mann-chiao-31jan18-en.pdf
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fen%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2Fcorrespondence%2Fbotterman-burr-to-mann-chiao-31jan18-en.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca0194e6646844b3c62bd08d56f33bdfd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636537190368897107&sdata=C34EdQBm%2B5wqukD0NGTP3MV45fi5K8gd1PTJtb2hwVY%3D&reserved=0>
> ... in case some of you have not read the response. Thanks!
>
> Ching
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:10 AM, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction
> Proceeds CCWG meeting which is scheduled for *Thursday 8 February at
> 14.00 UTC*. Please make sure to review the attached documents and those
> linked below in advance of the meeting.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Marika
>
>
>
> *Proposed Agenda – new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG Meeting – Thursday 8
> February 2018*
>
>
>
> *As a reminder, all conference call details will be circulated on the
> “ntfy” (short for “notify”) mailing list to which members only are
> subscribed in a read-only mode. These details must not be circulated on the
> wider public WG mailing list. To avoid burdening the WG public mailing
> list, please send your apologies ahead of time (apologies after the call
> will no longer be taken into account) and your dial-out requests to the
> GNSO Secretariat: gnso-secs at icann.org <gnso-secs at icann.org> in advance of
> the meeting..*
>
>    1. Roll Call
>    2. Welcome / DOI & SOI updates
>    3. Finalization of letter for external experts (see latest version
>    attached)
>    4. Review of response of Board Liaisons (see
>    https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/64075095/20
>    18-01-31%20Maarten%20Botterman%20and%20Becky%20Burr%20to%20E
>    rika%20Mann%20and%20Ching%20Chiao%20CCWG-AP.pdf?version=1&mo
>    dificationDate=1517839563000&api=v2
>    <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fdownload%2Fattachments%2F64075095%2F2018-01-31%2520Maarten%2520Botterman%2520and%2520Becky%2520Burr%2520to%2520Erika%2520Mann%2520and%2520Ching%2520Chiao%2520CCWG-AP.pdf%3Fversion%3D1%26modificationDate%3D1517839563000%26api%3Dv2&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca0194e6646844b3c62bd08d56f33bdfd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636537190368897107&sdata=%2FWy%2F5G3AAjI33itLAjpxhVb9a2uZsX%2FpDgDDc8QK018%3D&reserved=0>
>    and attached)
>    5. Confirm next steps & date for next meeting (Thursday 22 February at
>    14.00 UTC)
>
> *Marika Konings*
>
> *Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation
> for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) *
>
> *Email: marika.konings at icann.org <marika.konings at icann.org>  *
>
>
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> On Feb 9, 2018 1:08 AM, "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> While I generally support the goal, I was part of the small group working
> on the definition and it is not as simple to define.  ICANN does not
> address content, per se, for example. When I was just joining some wanted
> to use the term "open Internet", and I objected and explained that this was
> a sort of "term of art" that referred to Net Neutrality in the US and
> Europe.
>
>
> That is why we moved to open and interoperable Internet.  Of course, we
> can say:  open and interoperable Internet, consistent with ICANN's mission
> [link to ICANN's mission].
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on
> behalf of Mei Lin Fung <mlf at alum.mit.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 8, 2018 3:37 PM
> *To:* Maureen Hilyard
> *Cc:* ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed Agenda - new gTLD Auction
> Proceeds CCWG Meeting - Thursday 8 February at 14.00 UTC
>
> I agree with Maureen and would re-inforce that the Board's guidance on how
> our important mission of "an interoperable Internet" can be incorporated in
> the letter
>
> In fact, I believe doing this would assist in responding to the important
> point made by Nadira Alaraj - what is the motivation for them to help us
> with their guidance/thoughts/information
>
> An interoperable Internet is important so that all can participate in
> creating and enjoying the benefits of being connected to other people,
> businesses, employers and increase everyone's opportunities for being
> involved in economic, social and leisure activities
>
> Mei Lin Fung
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> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> My 2c following today's call..
>
> The Board letter indicates that they were concerned about how specific our
> examples were in this initial update to the Board of the group's
> activities, but as we are now working towards a more ultimate outcome, our
> next step will no doubt be to look at these examples from a more high level
> about overall recommendations for potential applications, since we have
> just been through the comprehensive process of gathering these specific
> possibilities and discussing their pros and cons. And we have some
> examples of suggestions that were not considered appropriate.
>
>
>
> Although it is still the work of the group to provide its own guidelines
> for the uses of the fund, with reference to the issue of the group's intent
> to support ICANN's vision of an "interoperable internet", I believe we
> would greatly benefit from more concrete advice from the Board about how we
> might be able achieve the intent of this direction, in order to pass on to
> potential applicants about how they might more appropriately use the funds
> to support this important ICANN purpose.
>
>
> Maureen
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:46 PM, 喬敬 <chiao at brandma.co> wrote:
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> FYI https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/botterm
> an-burr-to-mann-chiao-31jan18-en.pdf
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> Ching
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:10 AM, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction
> Proceeds CCWG meeting which is scheduled for *Thursday 8 February at
> 14.00 UTC*. Please make sure to review the attached documents and those
> linked below in advance of the meeting.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Marika
>
>
>
> *Proposed Agenda – new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG Meeting – Thursday 8
> February 2018*
>
>
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> the meeting..*
>
>    1. Roll Call
>    2. Welcome / DOI & SOI updates
>    3. Finalization of letter for external experts (see latest version
>    attached)
>    4. Review of response of Board Liaisons (see
>    https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/64075095/20
>    18-01-31%20Maarten%20Botterman%20and%20Becky%20Burr%20to%20E
>    rika%20Mann%20and%20Ching%20Chiao%20CCWG-AP.pdf?version=1&mo
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