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</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, February 24, 2017 at 6:03 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Michelle DeSmyter <michelle.desmyter@icann.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org>, "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat from CCWG Auction Proceeds call on Thursday, 23 February 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#333333">Following to my chat comment during the meeting with regards to combining the skills assessment survey with the coming tool to answer to the Charter questions, may I suggest and with<b>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#333333">Now the responses to the "CCWG skills and expertise" survey are there, having a filter to produce a list based on those who consider themselves have the expertise level. From my point of view,
this short listing will help giving some indication of who can be the reference point in certain skill. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:25 AM, Michelle DeSmyter <<a href="mailto:michelle.desmyter@icann.org" target="_blank">michelle.desmyter@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the CCWG Auction Proceeds call held on Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 15:00 UTC.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:15.6pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Mp3: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-23feb17-en.mp3" target="_blank">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-23feb17-en.mp3</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Michelle DeSmyter:Meeting wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_SpvRAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=JUdysPqSj5I2VgNyYj2AKdLabsux2MWoYJ4LkKtV4O4&s=bwpj5ZvaNykSCi9jQOF8CYN64Ol489PINGsC0ONoyZk&e=" target="_blank">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_SpvRAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=JUdysPqSj5I2VgNyYj2AKdLabsux2MWoYJ4LkKtV4O4&s=bwpj5ZvaNykSCi9jQOF8CYN64Ol489PINGsC0ONoyZk&e=</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Erika Mann:I found the Adobe connection. Thanks! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Asha Hemrajani:Good evening from Singapore<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Asha Hemrajani:Hello Erika!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Erika Mann:Hi Asha! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Alan Greenberg:Hello all. Attendance a bit sparse, even for 5 miuntes early.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:hi hi everyone!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:hi Erika, nice to see you here<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> hadia elminiawi:Hello all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Marc Gauw:Hi everyone from a very 'stormy' Amsterdam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA):Ah, just force 10...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:Beautiful sun shining in this summer here in Sao Paulo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Marc Gauw:growing to 12 in the next hours....brrr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:hi Asha<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA):I will be listen/typing only, as I caught a nasty flu in Iceland, and have no voice...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA):Marc: KLM has been cancelling flights out of Amsterdam..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Manal Ismail:Hello everyone ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> de LA CHAPELLE:Hi everyone, sorry I could not join the previous calls.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Marc Gauw:Yes, thats the good news Julf, they fly normally above my house :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:hi Alice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Olga Cavalli:Hello all!! good morning from Buenos Aires<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Jonathan Robinson:Hello All. We will commence shortly. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Alberto Soto:Hello all!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> hadia elminiawi:good evening from egypt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Jonathan Robinson:Please be reminded that meetings are for Members & Participants only. Observers are welcome to change status to Participant but will need
to complete DOI and SOI in order to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Dietmar Stefitz:Hi Everyone !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Erika Mann:Hi, hi ... no one is talking? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Jonathan Robinson:Please check your mic is on mute.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:thank you Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Marika Konings:Formal call is expected to go out shortly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Glenn:on mute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Erika Mann:Jonathan, Marika - a short summary would be good <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:+ 1 Erika<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Alice Munyua:Agree on some of the key areas we will require expert input<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> hadia elminiawi:when we start the actual work - we shall be able ti dentify where we fall short<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> elliot noss:+1 hadia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Erika Mann:Agree with Nadia <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Alice Munyua:The survey while not objective suggest that we will need expert inout in some key areas. We need to determine at what point this will be required<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Alice Munyua:Are the gaps not clear enough from the survey?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Marika Konings:as noted, some external experts were identified that are not part of this assessment, so some of the gaps may be filled by those external
experts identified?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Xavier:and Xavier is on the call. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:good to have legal and financial from ICANN Staff<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Alice Munyua:Thanks Marika.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Marika Konings:See <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1QtwFa9nCIMq8JYCtBHxAyQraWQ6M-2DiNNP4Kyq6q9Cds_edit&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=JUdysPqSj5I2VgNyYj2AKdLabsux2MWoYJ4LkKtV4O4&s=_lOeJcTjWmibMpHljohwZsG8IOhM6MN2leneArFo0Bo&e=" target="_blank">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1QtwFa9nCIMq8JYCtBHxAyQraWQ6M-2DiNNP4Kyq6q9Cds_edit&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=JUdysPqSj5I2VgNyYj2AKdLabsux2MWoYJ4LkKtV4O4&s=_lOeJcTjWmibMpHljohwZsG8IOhM6MN2leneArFo0Bo&e=</a> for
the external experts identified to date.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Erika Mann:Jonathan - indeed it's good to have Sam next time. My point was to have Xavier as well for another exchange about finance and audit. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:Xavier is grear to help us with a specific knowledge on "how"and "why not"and alternatives in some suggestions <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Ching Chiao:please note that Marika circulated a memo / note prepared by Xavier (Note May 2015). This would help us understand a lot better about legal
and fudiciary constraints.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Jonathan Robinson:Please note. No current budget for external expertise. If you do think funds will be required to support this group we need to make it
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Nadira ALARAJ:The document is a great compilation of different legal constraints <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> elliot noss:it would be quite practical to use her for an hour presentation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Jon Nevett:Any expenses we incur should come out of the Auction Proceeds fund and not general operating expenses. We could do that right away out of the
interest the funds are earning or as a payback to ICANN at a later time.. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> hadia elminiawi:+1 elliot<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Mathieu Weill, ccNSO:Regarding budget requests, we could start by asking ICANN (Xavier) whether a specific ICANN project is currently active or considered
in the Ops Plan ? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> elliot noss:-1 jon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> elliot noss:given the breadth of things funded, if we need expertise we should get it. I am not terribly in favour of much outside expertise and would not
be in favour of asking for budget now<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> elliot noss:I DISAGREED with it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> elliot noss:-1 not +1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> elliot noss:but a noble effort jon! :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Jon Nevett:i think we agree and he doesn't realize it!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> elliot noss:haha. maybe!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Alan Greenberg:My question should not be taken as presuming we need funding, I just wanted clarity so we were all on the same page.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:@ alan that was what i understood too- not waste money that can be used in a better program / project <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Becky Burr:Jon - re your comment that costs for experts should come out of the auction proceeds, keep in mind that the auction proceeds are completely segregated
and unavailable for funding anything until the community has developed and the Board has adopted a community developed policy for distributing the funds. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Becky Burr:The policy may recommend using auction proceeds to replenish ICANN funds in the amount spent by the CCWG on experts, for example, but this can't
be done in advance of the policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Asha Hemrajani:+1 Becky Jon, I think the focus should be on, as Jonathan has already pointed out, figure out what is the funds required to support the
group and work with Xavier to <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Asha Hemrajani:see what can be done<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Becky Burr:definitely could be done consistent with the policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> elliot noss:love the idea jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Asha Hemrajani:@Jon first the group should figure out what is needed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Becky Burr:when do we discuss the goals and purpose for which auction proceeds should be dispersed?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> matthew shears:yes, perhaps reordering as per daniel and then a fast pass<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> elliot noss:yes and the survey<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Erika Mann:I like this recommended approach <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Becky Burr:I do like the first pass approach<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Nadira ALARAJ:Daniel cluster is very smart way of doing things in two parallel tracks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Jon Nevett:The point is that folks on the CCWG should know that what we spend likely will come out of the auction funds and we should be very prudent in
what we spend (or ask to spend).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Becky Burr:Can we add a question about goals/purpose?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Dietmar Stefitz:Good approach! Clear and fast<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> matthew shears:yes, Becky's question is rather important!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:Yes Becky must be added<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Mathieu Weill, ccNSO:Until we've clarified goal / purpose, most questions can't be settled<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Asha Hemrajani:Yes we ought to add something about the overarching goals <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Asha Hemrajani:Exactly Mathieu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Erika Mann:We should discuss goals in a broader sense, we should at least be able to exclude what should not receive funding <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Manal Ismail:JOnathan your voice was breaking sorry of you already asked me to take the floor ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:goasl like - project that focus on all regions ...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> elliot noss:I would suggest that goals should be preceded by survey. this is ICANN. we have all been through these things. we could discuss goals for months!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Erika Mann:Jonathan, we might want to review the principles we definded in the Charter <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:yes Elliot, a survey will be a good start point<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Marika Konings:One survey question could also be what additional questions need to be answered by the CCWG (not only sub-questions) which could cover the
overarching question on goal / purpose?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Vanda Scartezini:could be Marika. will get all issues we are debating here <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Manal Ismail:My question was wether we should add to this first question the word 'allocation' along with selection/ranking ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Erika Mann:That's a good way connecting the key questions to subquestions. Then we can answer these questions and should be able to add new questions if
needed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Manal Ismail:ok thanks Jonathan for the clarification <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> hadia elminiawi:clustering seems good to me too, however we need to all have the same understanding of what falls under each questions to make educated
decisions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Nadira ALARAJ:It will be an anticipated need assessment but might not give good indication <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Ching Chiao:sounds good ! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Jon Nevett:sorry -- that was a bad joke<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif";color:black"> Ching Chiao:can name the survey like ... first-round brain dump<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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