<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I note that I took “wide net” to refer to both participants and applicants (I took a wide view of it!). if that is clearly the interpretation then I agree with your comment and suggestion.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">EN<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 21, 2017, at 12:23 AM, Sylvia Cadena <<a href="mailto:sylvia@apnic.net" class="">sylvia@apnic.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">I have incorporated the small changes around typos to the text attached and added a couple of small edits (just for clarification), see attached.
<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">I was trying to incorporate the text of the paragraph change proposed below that talks about the “wide net” but I was not able to do so, because on the letter,
the “wide net” refers to have a large number of people from different stakeholders participating in the process. However, the text below refers (if I understand it correctly) about the themes/topics/types of projects/initiatives to fund, as a congruence with
ICANN’s mission is mentioned? Am I understanding this the wrong way?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">The existing text on the letter says:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">The CCWG supports the Board’s recommendation that a wide net should be cast and is happy to report that in addition to the
members appointed by the CCWG Chartering Organizations, 45 participants and over 20 observers have signed up for this effort, many of which have no direct affiliation with ICANN SO/ACs. The CCWG recognizes that in addition to participation in the CCWG deliberations
there is also the question of who will eventually be eligible to apply for the funds which is something that is expected to be addressed as part of its deliberations on the charter questions.
<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">The change/addition proposed is below, and although I see the point, I don’t really see how to merge the 2 together as they about 2 different things.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">We note that despite ICANN and the CCWG's desire to cast a wide net,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">this may be constrained by a narrow interpretation of congruence with<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">ICANN’s mission. We appreciate the legal and other implications of<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">alignment with the mission and we acknowledge them, but we also note<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">that this necessarily limits the size of the net and therefore could be<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">detrimental to the potential benefits the funding could provide to the<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">Internet vs. to ICANN.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">My suggestion will be to have 2 paragraphs, one about the wide net for stakeholders to engage, and a second one about looking at a wide range of topics/themes that
might benefit the development of the Internet and the tension between that very important objective, and the need/desire to be aligned with ICANN’s mission.
<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">Warm regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class="">Sylvia
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">————<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Sylvia Cadena | APNIC Foundation - Head of Programs <a href="mailto:sylvia@apnic.net" class="">sylvia@apnic.net</a> | +10 GMT Brisbane, Australia<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.apnic.foundation" class="">http://www.apnic.foundation</a><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""> </span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-family: Calibri;" class=""><<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org" class="">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Vanda Scartezini <<a href="mailto:vanda@scartezini.org" class="">vanda@scartezini.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Date: </b>Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 11:56 pm<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>Erika Mann <<a href="mailto:erika@erikamann.com" class="">erika@erikamann.com</a>>, elliot noss <<a href="mailto:enoss@tucows.com" class="">enoss@tucows.com</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" class="">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" class="">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated response to the ICANN Board<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic"" class="">Elliot</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic"" class="">Appreciate your suggestion. I believe yes, that is important to make it quite clear to avoid future embarrassment.
</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic"" class="">The text may be improved to make it quite clear when translated to other languages, but as a non-English native will not suggest any changes.
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</span></b><span style="font-family: Calibri;" class=""><<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org" class="">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Erika Mann <<a href="mailto:erika@erikamann.com" class="">erika@erikamann.com</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Date: </b>Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 5:00 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>E Noss <<a href="mailto:enoss@tucows.com" class="">enoss@tucows.com</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" class="">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" class="">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated response to the ICANN Board</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Elliot - I like this recommendation but let's hear what others are saying.
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">@Marika, thank you for the work, will review it asap. <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Thanks, <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:38 PM, elliot noss <<a href="mailto:enoss@tucows.com" target="_blank" class="">enoss@tucows.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">There is one concept that I think would be important to communicate. I would suggest it as an addendum to the comment dealing with a “wide net”. Something like:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">* “We note that despite our desire to cast a wide net, this is constrained by a narrow interpretation of congruence with ICANN’s mission. We appreciate the legal and other implications of congruence with mission
and expect to attorn to them, but we also note that this necessarily limits the size of the net”.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I add this because the board is, in my opinion, on both sides of this issue. The net can be cast as wide as possible only GIVEN congruence with mission. This trade off should be made explicit or the board will
have their fig leaf and we will bear the criticism (board members on the list take note! :-)).<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Thanks.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On Apr 19, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">marika.konings@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">Following our meeting last week, please find attached for your review the updated response to the ICANN Board which aims to address the comments
raised during the call. Please share any further comments and/or edits you may have with the list by Wednesday 26 April at the latest.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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