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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the CCWG Auction Proceeds call held on Thursday, 15 June 2017 at 14:00 UTC.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Mp3: </span></b><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-15jun17-en.mp3
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<b><u><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Adobe Connect chat transcript for Thursday, 15 June 2017</span></u></b></p>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome to the CCWG New gTLD Auction Proceeds call on Thursday 15 June 2017 at 14:00 UTC for 90 minutes. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_gwvfAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=zXN1OdptqpT5fXXAsZnzPrQOClPCluXPihINpyBSzHA&s=xp5ms4dQVJCFr_Rk-FQ3VlJvNNAh2PTdVSeE8wclDNo&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_gwvfAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=zXN1OdptqpT5fXXAsZnzPrQOClPCluXPihINpyBSzHA&s=xp5ms4dQVJCFr_Rk-FQ3VlJvNNAh2PTdVSeE8wclDNo&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:hi everyone! holiday here...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julf Helsingius:Not here :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Hi there Vanda, welcome! Glad to have you on! :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:@michelle - relevant to liston on XAvier!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Xavier Calvez:Hello everyone.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:Hi everyone </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Ching Chiao:hello</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nadira AL-Araj:Hi all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Ching Chiao:am dialing in </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julf Helsingius:Sounds like someone has their mic on</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:hi Erika</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Dietmar Stefitz:Hi erika. We hear you </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Manal Ismail:Hello everyone :) !!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:hi Manal!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Manal Ismail:hi Vanda :) !!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:Please note that the slides have already been circulated by email</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:Very good </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Manal Ismail:yes we can hear u </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:Perfect, even better ... I was traveling and could'nt see attachments </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:its's moving Xavier </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:it is perfect Xavier</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:Perfect Xavier </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carolina Caeiro:The audio is breaking up for me. Anyone else having the same issue?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:It's fine on my end Carolina but I'm sure someone can look into your connection ... maybe you dial in again </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:@Carolina, are you connected via Adobe Connect or phone?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:Either way, please try to reconnect as audio is fine on this end.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:no Carol</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kavouss Arasteh:Marika, Erika, pls advise to dial me up on 905 374 1077 room 1412</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carolina Caeiro:I just dialed in again</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carolina Caeiro:thanks!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kavouss Arasteh:pls read chat</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:@Kavouss, a dial out is being set up.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:We saw your request Kavouss! Marika, can someone tell the operator to call Kavouss please </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:Thanks Marika ... you already responded! </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:thanks, audit is really larger here including fraud...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nadira AL-Araj:Is the audit will be conducted on the account for the auction proceed alone or for ICANN as a whole?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kavouss Arasteh:My question is that:Is there a special account for the revenuze from aution </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:@Nadira - this we will have to decide ... one single audit or separated audit .... </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nadira AL-Araj:Thanks, I've got it</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Asha Hemrajani:@Kavouss yes the auction proceeds are kept in a separate fund</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kavouss Arasteh:did you get my question on whether the incoe from auction is credited to a decdicated account</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:@Kavouss, please the response from Asha right above your question</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kavouss Arasteh:TKS </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:yes Erika, conservative investiemnts</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kavouss Arasteh:Are the investment is in US dollars?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:@Erika - the symbol for Alan and Lars means that they have stepped away. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kavouss Arasteh:YES </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Dietmar Stefitz:is everything invested only in the US ? Or globally?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nadira AL-Araj:please can you read it</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:@Marika - Thanks, I miss seeing again the right button line, Have to figure out what the problem is actually. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Daniel Dardailler:Regarding the fiduciaryrequirements that disbursements be made in accordance with ICANN’s mission, are the same auditors in charge of judging the level of accordance ? This could be a rather technical
evaluation.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:@Nadira - please let us know if your question is fully covered. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nadira AL-Araj:Then your fees doesn't come from the account of acution proceed </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kavouss Arasteh:How the auction account keeping fee are paid</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:@Nadira - can you reframe your questions please? Do you mean whether the auditors will get payed from ICANN operational budget if there is going to be a signle audit process. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Ching Chiao:"Disbursement must be made for "U.S." lawful purposes" -- just to make sure</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nadira AL-Araj:I'm following about the auditor fees: Because the auction proceed account is expected to be handled on its own… This implies and expenses of managing it has to be kept separately. And not covered
by ICANN </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:@Daniel - can you speak now? </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:Please note that there still of couple of more slides to cover, so please focus your questions on what has been covered so far. Other issues may be addressed in the rest of the presentation :-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nadira AL-Araj:We can't hear </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:Yes, Marika ... we will move there soon. Thanks for the reminder! </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Daniel Dardailler:I understand that the evaluation of the mission scoping was not an issue up to now, but the auction benefits may introduce one or two level of indirection between ICANN and the spending, so the
future evaluation maybe a different animal</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:kavouss and daniel ahd their hands raised</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:@Vanda, thank you </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Daniel Dardailler:OK, got it.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:@Kavouss is this a new hand </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:I will share all of the questions with Xavier so he can add to the notes as needed which we will then use to build the FAQ for this topic. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:this is point to us to discuss inside the group too</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jonathan Robinson:@Xavier. Thjank-you</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:@Vanda - indeed </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jonathan Robinson:@All. This issue on costs is reasonably important. The question is; to the extent that ICANN has incurred costs to date (in supporting the CWG DT, this CWG and any other costs), should they be
(a) absorbed by ICANN as part of general operation or (b) booked against the capital proceeds from the ICANN auctions?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julf Helsingius:Jonathan: I agree, it is a pretty important question</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:@jonathan- yes. thanks to repeat the question, rason why I said above that we need to discuss it inside our group. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Manal Ismail:Good question Jonathan ..</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Daniel Dardailler:If a separate organization is in charge of disbursing the funds, is it possible to "transfer" the legal requirements onto this separate agency ?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:Daniel - I have a similar question. Do you want to go first with your question? </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:Xavier, I will try to reload the slides to see if it shows the full graphic.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:We lost slided (or maybe only me?) </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:Slides and not slided </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Daniel Dardailler:after all, it is likely to be a legal organization as well, bound by its own contract with ICANN. how is it different from the other subcontracts ICANN currently run for its mission ?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:Daniel -complaince goes through the distributors ...so my idea is Yes. shall be follow the money</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:sorry for the delay, am trying to get a version up that shows the graphic properly</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:Thank you Marika! </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Daniel Dardailler:E.g. when I signed the contract with ICANN for the plenary in Paris in 2006, I received money for the event, and if I had spent it on something else, ICANN would have sued me, but I suppose
they would have been protected against my wrongdoing as a subcontract</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Daniel Dardailler:ok</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:yes very clear</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nadira AL-Araj:Yes, it clear, thanks</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mei Lin Fung:Very happy to hear that ICANN's oversight continues over time </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Erika Mann:@Xavier - please check the timing! </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:agree with Alan - that definition will drive our choices </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Dietmar Stefitz:Agree</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Dietmar Stefitz:And there should be a system to make it fast !</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:It is a many-body problem with no simple set of rules. If we decide a priori that the "overhead" will be no more than 1%, we will likely find out that we not be able to make that target.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:But if we set a "reasonable" target (and I have no idea how to define that), we can then set policies that match. And ensure that the level of auditing (in the general sense) allows us to meet our
fiduciary requirements.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:as you said ALAN, circular issue.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:"Iterate" is a far more sophisticated word then "circular"!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:yeah ALan, but we understood the concept</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:Just a reminder on agenda item 4, so far only 2 CCWG members/participants have completed the survey. Please provide your input as it will be essential for our meeting at ICANN59. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:deadline for responses is 21 June</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Dietmar Stefitz:Thanks Xavier. Really helpful Information!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nadira AL-Araj:Thank you Xavier, Erika... </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:really great presentation Xavier</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:thank you</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Hadia Elminiawi:Thank you Xavier</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Manal Ismail:Many thanks Xavier and everyone !!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Xavier Calvez:Thank you everyone for the time and the questions. Please send any remaining questions to Marika.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Hadia Elminiawi:thank you all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carolina Caeiro:Bye, thanks!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Xavier Calvez:and I will ensure we respond.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Hadia Elminiawi:bye</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Asha Hemrajani:Looking forward to our meeting in Joburg. Thank you all.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Dietmar Stefitz:bye to all</div>
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