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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>D<span style='color:black'>ear all,<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> and Adobe Connect<span style='color:black'> recording below for the CCWG Auction Proceeds call held on Thursday, 1</span>3<span style='color:black'> </span>July <span style='color:black'>2017 at 14:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p style='line-height:15.6pt;background:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Mp3:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-13jul17-en.mp3">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-13jul17-en.mp3</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='line-height:15.6pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>AC Recording: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><a href="https://participate.icann.org/p83dhz7hqef/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=3011643f1f7b0839e912cc31b822a52f47df76a428b3e4dce623421de5d0964f"><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>https://participate.icann.org/p83dhz7hqef/</span></b></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-2Dactivities_calendar-23nov&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=uidTA5V7RlRhqXBxGhLbVHOzk2lvDzLHK99nhjsKzW0&s=G7owpjQHHbzd9bFlrfdYX7Lik6lU9W8BeG1n7HUqLpI&e="><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2E75B6'>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar</span></a><span 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style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Wiki</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> agenda<span style='color:black'> page: </span></span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/cGXwAw"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>https://community.icann.org/x/cGXwAw</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Terri<span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>———————————————<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Adobe Connect chat transcript for Thursday, </span></u></b><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>13 July<span style='color:black'> 2017</span></span></u></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'> </span> Terri Agnew:Welcome to the CCWG New gTLD Auction Proceeds call on Thursday, 13 July 2017 at 14:00 UTC for 90 minutes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:agneda wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_cGXwAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=YUI7JhUvFoiosy9JJKloLpjCGcdmyYm6_nGyKvUuous&s=UrUG0M7-XVaC8qW8n23DYQGrfx6NbaNirnWtrL7quyE&e">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_cGXwAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=YUI7JhUvFoiosy9JJKloLpjCGcdmyYm6_nGyKvUuous&s=UrUG0M7-XVaC8qW8n23DYQGrfx6NbaNirnWtrL7quyE&e</a>= <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao:i am dilaing in now<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Dietmar Stefitz:Hi Everyone!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:Good afternoon<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Olga Cavalli:Hi all good morning from Buenos Aires!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao:Hello everyone! <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Joan Kerr:Hello eEveryone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:Hi everyone, thanks Ching. I will be in listening mode only. I have issues with my<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:mike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao:Noted Sylvia. Good to have you joining at this late hour <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Carolina Caeiro:Hi all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Stephen Deerhake (.as):Morning all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> judith hellerstein:Hi all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kavouss Arasteh:pls advise to dial me up<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:@Kavouss, the op will dial out shortly<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kavouss Arasteh:Pls advise to dial arasteh as I am still in Geneva<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao:pls everyone u can scroll down to page 3<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Joan Kerr:I just joined the committee, is the survey available to new members<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kavouss Arasteh:Terry pls call me up<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:@Kavouss, the op will dial out in a moment<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kavouss Arasteh:The speaker talk too fast It is difficult to follow<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kavouss Arasteh:pLS KINDLY REMIND EVERYBODY TO SLOW DOWN<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kavouss Arasteh:aLAN,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Glenn McKnight:As Alan stated the amount in an endowment sometimes limits the scope of the grants. Some of the requirements could obligate matching funds etc<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Kavouss is now connected on the telephone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kavouss Arasteh:Alan , ICANN IS NOT FORTUNE TELLER , whatever they say is subject to changes which are outside the control of ICANN.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kavouss Arasteh:When we refer to short, medium or long term project we could make a gestimate <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Carolina Caeiro:I think the results of question 4 are still displaying on the screen. Can we see Q7?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Carolina Caeiro:Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Hadia Elminiawi:@Marika - extend the survey for a couple more days<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:short term 1 year or less. medium term up to 3 years. long term 5 years and up. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kavouss Arasteh:aLAN+1<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:managing grants up to 3 years have some manageable overheads. more than 3 years can be done through "unconditional gifts" based on organizational missions, not on project objectives. that is a different mechanism. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao: Alan +1 <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:agree with Alan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Peter Vergote (ccNSO):Alan +1<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Hadia Elminiawi:alan +1<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Joan Kerr:@Alan: the funds could be tied to benchmarks, phases etc<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Joan Kerr:But make it easier to get the next batch<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Becky Burr:finally in - hello all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Peter Vergote (ccNSO):Would love to have couple of days extra to fill in the survey!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Stephen Deerhake (.as):+1 @Peter<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:Please consider that we do not have to select one single mechanism. there can be one for short term / smaller amounts and other for long term / large disbursements<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:finding the line<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Peter Vergote (ccNSO):I kinda like that suggestion Sylvia!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Glenn McKnight:stopped<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:ching, please consider my comment above. can't speak, issues with my mike. not typing fast enough<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:thanks peter :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao:sure. Let me repeat that after Marika's walk-thru <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:I think it is key to<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:key to<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Peter Vergote (ccNSO):No point in keeping a mechanism alive once funds are depleted but given the scope and size of amounts you might want something semi-lasting and detached from ICANN to oversee and manage fund distribution. That come pretty close to what Sylvia had in mind I guess<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Marika Konings:Alan, this may also be a question for external experts?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:community support is key to assess technical projects. high impact of any program starts with a technically sound selection process<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nadira AL-Araj:+1 Sylvia <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maureen Hilyard:+1 Sylvia<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Glenn McKnight:Yes, our experience with IEEE technology projects must partner with locals and non technical partners. all bring to the table a full picture<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nadira AL-Araj:They still need more refinement <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maureen Hilyard:@Kavouss +1<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:objectives and criteria are quite different. criteria refers normally (with grants management) to eligibility, forms to fill, licensing, use, copyright, etc. that is a very practical and operational. objectives are very important as that help applicants to decide if they want to apply or not.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena: SDGs is a good framework to consider. to broaden the desired impact without broadening the mission (as ICANN's mission is narrow and might change again in the future)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maureen Hilyard:SDGs would be a very relevant as a criteria so that projects can justify how they are sustainable<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Becky Burr:agree with Marika re focus<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:good idea Marika<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Becky Burr:let's ask them to explain WHY they think it is within the Mission<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao:+1 Marika<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Becky Burr:simple assertions don't help<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nadira AL-Araj:@Becky, regarding WHY it was conveyed to us that is legal perspective.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:@Ching your audio is cutting in and out<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao:sorry got cut off. am back to Adobe <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao:Terri -- could you arrange call back ? just sent you my number via email<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:@Ching, I recieved your updated telephone number and having op dial out to you.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao:i m in Adobe only<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Erika Mann:Apologies Colleagues - I couldn't join earlier! <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Ching is back on audio<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Glenn McKnight:If you recall at the the fellowship review they had a long list of best practice organizations and their methodologies to evaluate the program<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:there was a previous list of questions to external experts worth checking to include<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao:sorry i was on Skype but got cut off. now on mobile network (AT&T) and the audio quality is really bad<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nadira AL-Araj:We can hear you well Erika<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Marika Konings:we identified dates, but we haven't actually invited anyone yet as we've also discussed that some questions might be first answered by email. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:@Ching, would you like the operator to try calling you back to see if we can get a better connection?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Sylvia Cadena:agree with Erika<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Joan Kerr:Looking to experts for fudiciary issues might be good, however, I think speaking to civil society organization to identify needs, support and resources<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:as a reminder, please mute when not speaking<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao:Hi Terri -- it's okay <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao:+1 Erika<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:next meeting: CCWG New gTLD Auction Proceeds call held on Thursday, 27 July 2017 at 14:00 UTC for 90 minutes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Joan Kerr:Thank you<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:Thank you all!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maureen Hilyard:Thanks and bye everyone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Hadia Elminiawi:bye all thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nadira AL-Araj:thank you<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kavouss Arasteh:We must be careful about engaging expert with a view to limit the amount of cost involved and the justifications to engage expert as well not to promote the appetite of those look to get a job from this process .This is critical .moreover, Conflict of Interest is another issue which must be carefully look at<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Stephen Deerhake (.as):Bye!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ching Chiao:Thanks veryone!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>