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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hi everyone,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I would like to request the chairs to clarify the use of the surveys. If those are surveys, then they are supposed to be used to get an indication about what the groups leans
towards. Not a voting procedure, as clearly warned on the decision-making section of our charter. If that is the case, I would like to request the chairs to clarify when a vote for consensus is required and how that consensus is expressed, so that we can inform
our constituencies and express our agreement or disagreement accordingly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Now regarding Xavier’s presentation, I appreciate that he shared with the group how the funds are being invested at the moment. It might be my mistake, that I misunderstood what
his presentation was actually going to be about, but I thought he was going to present what mechanisms are available in the US to disburse funds like this, that do not jeopardize the ICANN tax status. There are financial mechanisms to do that, and as they
come with their own set of criteria, that can give us ideas about how to use the funds. I hope that part of the conversation can happen in the short term.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Now, regarding the possibility of using a portion of the funds to replenish ICANN reserves I have a few points to make:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I recommend caution when discussing this in fix amounts. As far as I am aware, the .web lawsuit has not been settled yet (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_governance_litigation-2Den&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=ssAuRPLfQop3MZxe0obpB2ceIyksM43zK9eUArV00sc&s=s9hzt60-MEjEyISU_FCoOKIGN-T5qdy-FLqNdQmkpbQ&e=">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/litigation-en</a>),
so those 130M could be taking out of the auction proceeds fund, leaving only 100M there. If the group agrees to cover a specific amount, lets say the 12 months amount of 40M mentioned before, then the fund will only have 60M to allocate. Even worse, if the
group agrees to the 80M. Please note that reserves mean money that will not be used hopefully for a very long period of time. I suggest to refer to percentages instead.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">APNIC, for example has an 18 months reserve. The reserve was built over the years, following an investment plan and monitoring
expenditure. Having reserves is a good thing, but what is better is to have the strategy behind it to maintain them without expecting a miracle to happen or to win the lotto.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Jonathan’s point referring to the charter, and calling the group to discuss “whether or not we would like to see rules in place that sanction ICANN (the organisation) applying
for auction funds” is very important and puts a lot of things into perspective. So, what rules will the CCWG place for any other “project” that has such a long-term view (the reserves are to be there until something really bad happens and ICANN needs them)
and for such a large amount? What safeguards need to be in place? What monitoring will be needed? So, for example, will the CCW be ok to fund other projects that are asking for USD 40M for 20 years? Jonathan mentioned some criteria to consider, which sound
very reasonable, but in practice, that will mean assessing ICANN’s financial strategies as well as following up if their policies are well structured. Seems to be that will be a very complicated thing to do. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As Carolina and others have expressed before, I do not agree with how the objectives have been regrouped. The survey clearly indicated that the group was in favor of the fund
supporting multiple objectives instead of one. Regrouping goes actually against what the group indicated as a preference. Also, by editing the first objective and changing it from “Funds should focus on development, distribution and evolution of the Internet”
to “benefit the development, distribution and evolution of the DNS” change its meaning and purpose. The Internet (technically) is not only the DNS. There are other related protocols that are also key and aligned with ICANN’s mission. Although I value the efforts
by ICANN staff and the co-chairs to try to build a coherent narrative behind the funds allocation, I fully support the analysis that Daniel Dardailler shared a few days ago:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">DD wrote: // Without an Open TCP/IP stack, as delivered by IETF, no Open Web stack <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">could have flourished. And without the Open Web, no DNS growth.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">We can't limit our funding to just the DNS layer, as it stands directly <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">on other Open layers (IP, http) that are required to function properly <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(and evolve properly) for the DNS to succeed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I think Daniel’s analysis below about what might be in and what might be out is also a relevant input for the discussion. If we can go through a list like this and agree on what
is included and what is not, that will certainly provide real clarity about what will be eligible and what will not. The only section of this list that I would like to argue against, is the one saying that the fund should not support the app/platform/content
layer as there might be many issues around this, that could be done on this layer that support the objectives discussed on the survey. I presented one such example on my survey responses “A coalition of organizations working on remote participation tools and
content receive a long-term grant to support localization efforts for 7 local languages not covered under the existing ICANN’s framework (Bahasa, Tagalog, Dutch, Hindi, Japanese, Malay, Urdu). This encourages local and national conversations that feed into
the regional and global processes.” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> DD wrote: // - Not inclusive of the physical layer (however open is can be, too far <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> from ICANN mission, and not clear it needs funding)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> - Inclusive of the transport and presentation layer (TCP/IP, Web, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">directly linked to DNS operations, and needs funding)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> - Inclusive of the addressing layer (IPv6, DNS, it's ICANN core <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">activities, so not clear to me it needs funding since ICANN already has <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">a healthy budget without the auctions. Isn't DNS capacity building part <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">of ICANN responsibilities already ?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> - Not inclusive of the app/platform/content layer (too far from ICANN <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">mission, although it needs funding too)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> - Inclusive of the policy layer (shutdown, net neutrality, etc., even <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">though I agree with others that these are very sensitive topics that <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">would position ICANN on a difficult path vs. some of its constituencies, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">e.g. the GAC, or telco/DNS players).”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sylvia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">————<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Sylvia Cadena |
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