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<p>Dear all, <br>
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<p>Are there any problems with re-opening the survey for a couple
extra hours, say 10:00PM UTC? I was awaiting for some feedback and
missed the deadline for some 20 minutes. I think this should still
give us sufficient time for review ahead of tomorrow's meeting and
some other group members might be in a similar situation?<br>
</p>
<p>Many thanks,</p>
<p>Carolina<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 23/8/17 a las 15:14, Marika Konings
escribió:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Please
note that this poll has now been closed. You are encouraged
to review the results ahead of tomorrow’s meeting here:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-K3MK9MY5/">https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-K3MK9MY5/</a>.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Marika
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="color:black"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org"><ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org></a>
on behalf of Marika Konings
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"><marika.konings@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, August 21, 2017 at 12:03<br>
<b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org">"ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"><ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER Re:
Please participate - survey re. whether ICANN Org should
be able to apply for funds<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Reminder
– please participate in the poll if you have not done so
yet.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best
regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Marika</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="color:black"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org"><ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org></a>
on behalf of Marika Konings
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"><marika.konings@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 06:12<br>
<b>To: </b>Jonathan Robinson
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info"><jrobinson@afilias.info></a>, 'Seun Ojedeji'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com"><seun.ojedeji@gmail.com></a>, "Xavier J. Calvez"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xavier.calvez@icann.org"><xavier.calvez@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org">"ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"><ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Please participate
- survey re. whether ICANN Org should be able to apply for
funds</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jonathan,
thank you for your suggestion and others for chiming in. In
consultation with the leadership team, staff has put
together a short survey to obtain CCWG input on the
questions you have outlined below which will hopefully help
inform the CCWG deliberations on this topic. To participate
in the survey, please go to
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.com_r_HRRV93W&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=_T1cLFkwn8kLi5jr9uCCI3cTUNSqX0Cv-wIVN_Xqpqc&s=YWSOX8e-LtaTRwYSpnCY2VJtJ6ujbtxMW5EzSdyanhQ&e=">https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/HRRV93W[surveymonkey.com]</a>.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">You
are requested to provide your input by Wednesday 23 August
at 18.00 UTC at the latest.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Marika</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="color:black"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org"><ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org></a>
on behalf of Jonathan Robinson
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info"><jrobinson@afilias.info></a><br>
<b>Organization: </b>Afilias<br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Jonathan Robinson
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info"><jrobinson@afilias.info></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, August 11, 2017 at 03:11<br>
<b>To: </b>'Seun Ojedeji' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com"><seun.ojedeji@gmail.com></a>,
"Xavier J. Calvez" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xavier.calvez@icann.org"><xavier.calvez@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org">"ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"><ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes &
action items from today's CCWG-AP meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">A
couple of thoughts on this topic.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">On
the subject of whether or not ICANN should have a 12 month
operating expense reserve in place.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Agreed
that it seems to be common practice in the not for profit
sector.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Whether
or not it should be the case for ICANN is an interesting
question, but agreed, not one for this CWG.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In
any event, Xavier has clarified that the current policy is
that the level of operating reserve should be 12 months.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">My
understanding of the question for this group is not whether
or not we would sanction the (auction fund) money being used
to top up the reserves.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">But
rather, whether or not we would like to see rules in place
that sanction ICANN (the organisation) applying for auction
funds.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In
evaluating that question of ICANN the organisation as a
prospective applicant, a use or test case for that
consideration is ICANN applying (under the same rules as
anyone else) for auction funds to top up the ICANN reserve
funds.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">My
personal view is that ICANN should be demonstrating a
commitment to fulfilling its current policy (to have in
place a 12 month reserve) by budgeting an operating surplus
to build that reserve.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In
addition (independently of this CWG), ICANN should review
its current policy on reserve funds.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If
these two criteria were met, it would make me personaly much
more sympathetic to potentially topping up reserve funds (to
some extent) with auction funds.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">At
the risk of being repetitive, it seems to me that the
question for this CWG remains:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Whether
or not ICANN the Organisation should be permitted to apply
for funds?<br>
and</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If
so, what constraints should be place on this (use of
funds, quantum etc)?</span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jonathan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Seun Ojedeji [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 11, 2017 7:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xavier J. Calvez <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xavier.calvez@icann.org"><xavier.calvez@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes &
action items from today's CCWG-AP meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Xavier is right about reserve that
covers operational expenses for minimum is say 12 month
being normal practice. Some even do it for more; some RIRs
have way above 1 year already while others are working
towards same. However ofcourse none can match the fat
figures of ICANN budget. ;-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However I don't think auction proceeds
in this context can be referred to as surplus that can get
ploughed back to achieve reserve target set by ICANN
management NOR do I think it is a target/goal that this
group should try to achieve.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I for will suggest that we should
consider mechanisms that allow some community projects
that ICANN normally fund in their budget to be eligible,
which if approved (based on the process) may then result
to more surpluses to ICANN and they(Board) can decide to
put that to reserve.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my mobile<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 10, 2017 10:26 PM, "Xavier J.
Calvez" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xavier.calvez@icann.org">xavier.calvez@icann.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
apologize if I did not make the following clear:
ICANN’s current policy is to have in place a reserve
fund equivalent to at minimum 12 months of operating
expenses. Refer to ICANN’s Investment Policy, see at
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_investment-2Dpolicy-2D2014-2D07-2D30-2Den&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=Dww8xHmK4zEHqHK0lHK7IdorPuvHkXKk1luyeB5pBxQ&s=rcBRrG4RZelJUExS-glQJgvDHB75hZlkZOX7O2qDG_A&e="
target="_blank">
https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/investment-policy-2014-07-30-en[icann.org]</a>,
see the paragraph “Size of Funds”, copied below).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">“The
Reserve Fund shall contain any amounts not contained
in the Operating Fund. Any surplus funds will be
used to build up the Reserve Fund to a balance
sufficient to cover an emergency requirement. The
Reserve Fund is expected to reach and maintain a
level of funds to maintain a minimum of 12 months of
expected expenditures.“<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
indicated that this level of a reserve fund is the
commonly used in non-profit organizations.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thank
you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Xavier<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Xavier
Calvez<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="color:black"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Alan Greenberg <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"
target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 1:41
PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dietmar Stefitz <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:djs@bemarnet.es" target="_blank">djs@bemarnet.es</a>>,
Michael Karanicolas <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com"
target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>>,
Kavouss Arasteh <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"
target="_blank">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"
target="_blank">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds]
Notes & action items from today's CCWG-AP
meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">To
be clear, I don't think anyone on the call suggested
we build up the reserve to a 12 or 24 month level of
current budget. Xavier said that 1 year was a
typical norm for non-profits, but in my opinion,
there is no need for that, as in the case of
emergency, costs could be ramped down quickly.
<br>
<br>
I vaguely recall that the level that we were
targeting (before the drain from the CCWG-Acct
expenses) was something like $80m. So even if we
contributed enough to get back to that level, it
would be perhaps $40m.
<br>
<br>
But the issue in my mind is not how much, but if.<br>
<br>
Alan<br>
<br>
At 10/08/2017 03:28 PM, Dietmar Stefitz wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi
Erika and all,<br>
<br>
I have been very astonished to hear the proposal
to use the Auction Money in filling up the reserve
account of ICANN.<br>
Filling up for 12 month reserve or 24 month
reserve, if we have to take 24 month, there will
not be much left to disburse to other projects.<br>
<br>
I thought that the call from Xavier has been to
explain specially the Investment of the fund at
this moment, for which I can only congratulate.<br>
A 1% return on a super save investment is not bad,
and it should be made like this in the future.<br>
<br>
I would absolutely be against a filling up of the
reserve fund from the auction proceeds, at least
as a decision from this group.<br>
Or did I misunderstand something?<br>
<br>
Dietmar Stefitz<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thursday, August 10, 2017, 8:05:56 PM, you wrote:<br>
<br>
<b>MK> Hi Kavouss,<br>
<br>
MK> Am I missing something - or are you
suggesting that the CCWG should<br>
MK> only determine whether or not money be
fed into ICANN's reserve<br>
MK> account, without also indicating what
proportion should be used to<br>
MK> that effect?<br>
<br>
MK> If so - I don't see how the CCWG could
consider anything beyond that<br>
MK> simple yes/no question, as we'd have no
indication how much money we<br>
MK> would have leftover to work with, once
the reserve is replenished.<br>
MK> Decisions about allocation priorities
can't really be made unless we<br>
MK> also look at how the pie should be
portioned out, right?<br>
<br>
MK> Michael Karanicolas<br>
<br>
MK> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Kavouss
Arasteh<br>
MK> <</b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target="_blank"> kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a><b>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
>> Dear Erika, Dear All,<br>
<br>
>> Today during the last 15 mints of the
call I tried to draw your attention to<br>
>> allow me to intervene on the views
expressed by Alan reading the Reserve<br>
>> account.<br>
<br>
>> If I have well understood his statement
he wanted that CCWG discuss the<br>
>> level of ICANN reserve account which
was announced by Xavier to be<br>
>> equivalent to one year budget as
objective. As Xavier mentioned this level<br>
>> has not been reached.<br>
<br>
>> Alan’s view that CCWG discuss the
level of ICANN reserve account is outside</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
</span>>> the mandate of CCWG. We may just
decide whether or not that account be fed</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
</span>>> by using Auction money but
decision on the appropriate level of the reserve<br>
>> account is totally outside or mandate
as it is a decision to be made by the<br>
>> Board and not by this group<br>
<br>
>> Regards<br>
<br>
>> Kavouss<br>
<br>
<br>
>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Joke
Braeken <</b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org"
target="_blank">joke.braeken@icann.org</a>
<b>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
<br>
>>> Dear All,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> Please find below the notes and
action items from today’s CCWG-AP meeting.</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>>>> Best regards,</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>>>> Joke Braeken</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>>>> Notes CCWG – AP Meeting 10
August 2017:</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>>>> These high-level notes are
designed to help the CCWG navigate through the</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
</span>>>> content of the call and are
not meant as a substitute for the transcript<br>
>>> and/or recording. The MP3,
transcript, and chat are provided separately and<br>
>>> are posted on the wiki at: </b><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_DLHDAw&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=IWWGaKyGUGcKQNGe7LtArAou7HP6fPR5aWjbPBUFZ3k&m=HKuU-9DAESnqcGMIdaNf5MeIgsXuBdt1W6-AYHyIJIc&s=6OyX-H7GEmBCRJWXNDGE46VvO6oDVoRB82Z2AeomXAg&e="
target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/DLHDAw[community.icann.org]</a><b>.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> Roll Call<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> Please state your name for
transcription purposes and keep microphones on<br>
>>> mute when not speaking.<br>
>>> Attendance will be taken from the
AdobeConnect room.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> Welcome – DOI</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>>>> Overview from Xavier Calvez
on investment management<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> The intention of this presentation
is<br>
<br>
>>> to allow the group to think on the
issue of investment,<br>
>>> to understand ICANN's practice, and
to answer any questions that might be<br>
>>> raised.<br>
<br>
>>> It helps to inform the discussion
on the ROI of the fund; It includes an<br>
>>> overview of how the auction
proceeds are currently managed, which might lead<br>
>>> to how they might be managed in the
future.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> Important to note:<br>
<br>
>>> only conservative investment
policies are being used<br>
>>> the investment strategy will be
designed in support of the objectives<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> An overview of some illustrative
investment scenarios was provided,<br>
>>> followed by Q&A.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> Parameters that need to be
considered:<br>
<br>
>>> amount of money<br>
>>> horizon<br>
>>> level of risk (which is not
correlated to the horizon)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> Financial information is regularly
provided during the quarterly<br>
>>> stakeholder calls.<br>
<br>
>>> (amount from latest update - Q3
data of FY17.<br>
</b>>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_quarterlyreports&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=IWWGaKyGUGcKQNGe7LtArAou7HP6fPR5aWjbPBUFZ3k&m=HKuU-9DAESnqcGMIdaNf5MeIgsXuBdt1W6-AYHyIJIc&s=baFsmaqAdvnSkJG4eoXhzZNn5-StHSA9z08s4kUvK4E&e="
target="_blank">
https://www.icann.org/quarterlyreports[icann.org]</a><b>)<br>
<br>
>>> Reserve Fund: 64 million<br>
>>> New gTLD unspent application fees:
128 million<br>
>>> Auction proceeds: 233 million<br>
>>> Annual budget of ICANN. FY18 budget
expenses 142 million USD.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> Regarding replenishing the reserve
fund: appropriate procedures need to be<br>
>>> taken, appropriate approvals and
decisions need to be in place for it to be<br>
>>> legal.<br>
<br>
>>> This is however a moral question as
well. The charter does include this<br>
>>> question: “To what extent (and,
if so, how) could ICANN, the Organization or</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
</span>>>> a constituent part thereof,
be the beneficiary of some of the auction
fundsâ€
</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
<br>
</span>>>> The group needs to discuss
this at a later stage.</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>>>> Next meeting</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>>>> next CCWG-AP meeting is
scheduled for Thursday 24 August at 14.00 UTC</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>>>> = = = =<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> Action item #1:<br>
<br>
>>> CCWG to review the slides presented
by Xavier (published on<br>
</b>>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_CWGONGAP_2017-2D08-2D10-2BCCWG-2BNew-2BgTLD-2BAuction-2BProceeds-2Bcall&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=IWWGaKyGUGcKQNGe7LtArAou7HP6fPR5aWjbPBUFZ3k&m=HKuU-9DAESnqcGMIdaNf5MeIgsXuBdt1W6-AYHyIJIc&s=FQiYsQAxL7CV_3RJCSjIYJtSMgDGoFBN-QeXmJoUPBU&e="
target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/2017-08-10+CCWG+New+gTLD+Auction+Proceeds+call[community.icann.org]</a>
<b>)<br>
>>> and to share any further questions
for Xavier on the group’s mailing list.</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>>>> Action item #2:</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
<br>
</span>>>> Per the discussion during
the CCWG-AP meeting on 27 July 2017, the</b><b><span
style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
</span>>>> attached mind map was
developed, which aims to regroup the objectives
based<br>
>>> on the survey results as well as
the subsequent discussions. The CCWG is<br>
>>> encouraged to continue to provide
feedback on the proposed regrouping of<br>
>>> objectives/priorities, as well as
the clustering of examples ahead of the<br>
>>> next meeting, scheduled for 24
August at 14 UTC.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> Action item #3:<br>
<br>
>>> CCWG to review responses to charter
question #4 and to continue the<br>
>>> discussion on the mailing list.<br>
<br>
>>> (see </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.com_results_SM-2D6GNDQHJ6_&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=IWWGaKyGUGcKQNGe7LtArAou7HP6fPR5aWjbPBUFZ3k&m=HKuU-9DAESnqcGMIdaNf5MeIgsXuBdt1W6-AYHyIJIc&s=yulKeXnAn5CN2_dNRAj8nx_5IeuwBT4F1Heh3dtZJWI&e="
target="_blank">https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-6GNDQHJ6/[surveymonkey.com]</a><b>
)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> = = = =<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> Joke Braeken<br>
<br>
>>> ccNSO Policy Advisor<br>
<br>
</b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org"
target="_blank">>>>
joke.braeken@icann.org</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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