<div dir="auto"><div>Thank you Daniel for pulling back ISOC policy paper on openness. </div><div dir="auto">Thank you for highlighting on what technology can do vs. what user may do. </div><div dir="auto">I also in support of Erika's move in putting the definition in the context of what exactly relevant to this specific mission we the CCWG AP. </div><div dir="auto">Unfortunately, I apologize for not being able to give a hand on these days. <br><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 2, 2017 7:40 PM, "Daniel Dardailler" <<a href="mailto:danield@w3.org">danield@w3.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello Marika, all<br>
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Reading this document, I think I agree with Erika that we should consider giving our collective view of what we, the CCWG, think constitutes the Open Internet, and put it in a preamble to a section introducing a more detailed and ICANN mission specific set of things that adhere to the principles introduced in the preamble.<br>
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The document as it stands contains both kind of definition/description so it's difficult to agree with it as a whole, i.e. to summarize it in one piece.<br>
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I also think ISOC paper on exactly this topic,<br>
<a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/doc/open-internet-what-it-and-how-avoid-mistaking-it-something-else-september" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.internetsociety.or<wbr>g/doc/open-internet-what-it-an<wbr>d-how-avoid-mistaking-it-somet<wbr>hing-else-september</a><br>
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provides the right axis for defining our principles: technology, economy, politics, society.<br>
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One thing this paper also does is recognizing that what the technology "can" do is different from what the user "may" do. The use of "accessible to all people for all purposes" in the document seems to ignore this fact.<div class="quoted-text"><br>
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On 2017-08-31 22:44, Marika Konings wrote:<br>
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Dear All,<br>
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Hereby attached the updated version of the open internet definition /<br>
description which incorporates the comments and suggestions that were<br>
submitted since the last version. As there are a number of definitions<br>
/ descriptions that have been put forward so far, are there any<br>
volunteers who would like to take a stab at coming up with a draft<br>
that brings the different perspectives together and addresses the<br>
different comments and contributions to date which the CCWG could<br>
review during its next meeting?<br>
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Best regards,<br>
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Marika<br>
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