<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone.. I think the discussion expanded from whether or not we should include Vanda's question...<div><br></div><div>M</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Alan Greenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">






<div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">I agree. I think we are getting way ahead of ourselves. It is not yet clear we will have an organization with a board, and even if we do, it is not clear that the board needs the background to be making project decisions or how to advertise the program(s). An aircraft company board does not necessarily need to be composed of aeronautical engineers.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos.</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On November 16, 2017 12:09:22 AM EST, Sylvia Cadena <<a href="mailto:sylvia@apnic.net" target="_blank">sylvia@apnic.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Again, that is a conversation that might happen if the group decides to support as a mechanism the creation of a new foundation, but if the groups sets on a different mechanism, then we do not
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">If we set on other mechanism, we might focus on how make sure the selection and allocation balance merit, geographical distribution, representation of developing economies, benefit, etc. without
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 16 November 2017 at 8:12 am<br>
<b>To: </b>Maureen Hilyard Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: Proposed Agenda - new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">i think we can address that, Maureen, in criteria for the Board for the new foundation, which is what I favor as the mechanism.</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">We could establish a criteria of at least two from regions, and also from sub regions on the board.</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I am going to go for more than one person on the board to note that we need many from the sub regions and regions. </span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">For North America, for instance, I am not the person, but someone from the indigenous peoples could be.</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 15, 2017 4:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marilyn Cade<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Vanda Scartezini; <a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><br>
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 for example, don't have any connection with the US, so we don't get any priority. It would be imperative that our processes are inclusive and user-friendly so that  all levels of society and all types of communities can be benefit from these funds, and at
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Marilyn Cade <<a href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com" target="_blank">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">multiple regions, and some have staff that have experience in working in different countries. Sometimes a Foundation is based in a country where the primary donor base is located -- e.g.
 I have found a few that are based in their country of origin in Europe, but their focus is funding development in developing countries.   That happens also for the US based Foundations, if the primary contributor (s) are homed in that country, and they are
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">That to me is not the question we should be asking: we should be asking what can we learn from you and your approach to managing the solicitation of applications, and the review process;
 the award process, and the monitoring and evaluation process, including required reports on results, transparency, criteria for Board members, staff members, etc.</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Vanda Scartezini<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Marilyn Cade; <a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank">
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I would like to add to Marilyn’s concerns, that I agree, a question to someone to answer: Which are the requisites  for any American Foundation ( or other From any developed country) to apply resources in developing
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On 15 Nov 2017, at 17:16, Marilyn Cade <<a href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com" target="_blank">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I understand,Erika, however, Gates may be too big to be considered representative. Very large donor organizations have very large </span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Smaller donor organizations often have less overhead, and can be closer to the purpose for which a fund is created.</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">We can develop a set of standard questions and do interviews that not everyone can attend, but we can get a set of questions that we ask of each </span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marilyn Cade<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Marika Konings; Seun Ojedeji; <a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank">
ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I agree with you, learning is always good but we need to keep in mind that we need to be able to handle these additional conference calls. Let's discuss tomorrow how
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Marika,with apologies for delayed suggestions:</span></p><p></p><p></p>
<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I tried to add in a couple of ideas of experts, and found I can't figure out how. </span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I nominate Alliance for Affordable Internet [A4AI]; Mastercard Foundation; and IEEE Foundation for additional conversations.  I do note that we are not including yet some of the major
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I know that I have only been a participant for the last 6 meetings, and regret that I missed some earlier discussions so apologize to be bringing in new thoughts at this late date. </span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">In my view, learning about how funds are dispersed, and evaluated should be our priority, not picking a particular model. So, I would </span></p><p></p><p></p>
<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">suggest that even if in the future, some of these groups we are learning from might apply for Auction fund supported projects,</span></p><p></p><p></p>
<p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">we need not limit our learning. Also, we must not limit our learning to only those who are affiliated with some of us, and I say that gently, but sometimes the road ahead is illuminated
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Ccwg-auctionproceeds <<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Seun Ojedeji<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: Proposed Agenda - new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Seun, the experts that have been identified by the CCWG to date can be found here:
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">With regards to next milestone, please review the updated timeline that was circulated with the agenda. This document also includes the approach for dealing with the charter questions that the CCWG is following.
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">The survey was intended to see whether a clear preference existed amongst the CCWG members and participants for a certain mechanism. However, as there does not seem to be a clear preference, the CCWG will need to start
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 further information is needed with regards to the different mechanisms to be able to value these criteria. For example, several commenters noted that cost is an important factor in determining which mechanism is preferable, but at this stage, the CCWG has
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">If there are suggestions for how to move forward quicker on making this determination or other parts of the work that can be done in parallel (the leadership may have some suggestions during tomorrow’s meeting), these
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 02:39<br>
<b>To: </b>Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank">marika.konings@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.<wbr>org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.<wbr>org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed Agenda - new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on 16 November at 14.00 UTC</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Please note a tentative apology. That said, could you remind me again who the experts are, are those ICANN staff if not are they paid category of people within this CCWG?</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">To the Chairs, I raised this during the face 2 face and I think I should ask again here; can we have an idea of what the next milestone of the group is supposed to be and in what timeline are we supposed to achieve
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I am saying this because I feel we are getting too bugged down with documentations that seems repeatitive to me. We earlier did a survey about the options, then we put that on pause and did the session at AbuDhabi
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">On Nov 14, 2017 6:03 PM, "Marika Konings" <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank">marika.konings@icann.org</a>> wrote:</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting which has been scheduled for Thursday 16 November at 14.00 UTC. Please make sure to review the documents attached, especially
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Proposed Agenda – new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on Thursday 16 November at 14.00 UTC</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Roll Call</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Welcome / DOI – SOI Updates</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><span>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Completing stage 2:
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><span>a.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Review of updated examples document (see attached)</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><span>b.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Open and Interoperable Internet description (DT expected to circulate latest version prior to meeting)</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><span>c.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">      
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Discuss next steps</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><span>4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Stage 3 – review and refine questions for experts (see document attached)</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><span>5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Review and discuss updated work plan (see attached)</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><span>6.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Confirm next steps and time/date for next meeting (Thursday 30 November at 14.00 UTC)</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) </span></i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p><p></p><p></p>
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